@fleetfox, I have the same questions as the other ladies. Are you having treatment for your immune issues?
Sorry to hear about your BFN.
@fleetfox welcome to this thread. Im so sorry about your bfn. As the other ladies said yiu should definitely see Dr Matthias who based in Sydney. He does phone consults. I am in Perth so he can still treat you via phone and possibly request you to fly to sydney. I am going back in June for my 4th attempt. 3 bfn last year. I agree with you that i find CFC a bit blasè about some things. This time round my nurse is not very organised which is frustrating. So i am doing my protocol through Dr M and have not told CFC about all the meds he has me on. They want me to do a 'basics' cycle but im actually doing a full on cycle in my opinion. For me it is anyway. I am using a totally new donor. Are the grades of your final embryos good? I wish i had of tried a new donor for my third attempt instead of using the remaining 3 embryos i had left and doing a Frozen transfer. When we go over this time i will get my husband to leave a sperm collection there to freeze as a back up. This was suggested to me by another bubhuber. Then if we have another failed transfer DH wont have to fly over again if we chise a new donor. But tbh im not sure i will go back to CFC again if i get a bfn and will look into other countries or even surrogacy. Ask any questions, lots of girls here to help you xx
Thanks ladies for the responses and suggestions <3
I am on 10mg prednisone, which I need to manage my immune disease anyway, so was on that through the cycle. Have been on that for the 2 other IVFs as well. Thanks heaps for the suggestion on Dr M, I will get a referral. After a lifetime of medical issues, I do find a lot of docs have poor knowledge of immune issues unless they are specialists. I have an immune specialist here in Melb but she doesn't have the knowledge about fertility.
ECM - so sorry to hear about your 3bfn, and thanks for your insights. Would love to hear more of your story.
I felt that CFC didn't pay much, if any, attention to my medical history - they just put me on a standard protocol.
CFC Dr checked my lining on first appt and then gave us tourist tips for 15 mins. Was clear from his comments that he hadn't read my file (as we were walking out and I made a comment about IVF, he said "oh, you've done IVF before?") Then a week later we did the transfer - so all up 7k for less than half an hour of face time! Pretty standard for IVF I guess.
I had a couple of issues that concerned me on the cycle - first, when I started the synarel on CD1 to suppress my hormones, my period stopped - worried that this may have affected things, but they said not to worry. Also, at the first appointment in CT, my lining was 12mm after 14 days on progynova - we did the transfer a full week later - worried that the lining would then be too thick - again, they said it was all fine. Am concerned they are not really paying attention?
I was so excited to get any blasts at all tbh, as that's new for us. All 4 blasts were BB3AA which CFC said was good quality - would be interested to hear any thoughts on this. Plan is to transfer the final 2 in a couple of months.
I also question their success rate of 65% at CFC? Have seen previous posts here that show about 50/50 bfn/bfp for people on this forum.
Last edited by fleetfox; 24-04-2016 at 14:08. Reason: clarifying something
Yes theu are not really interested in your background or figuring out why it didnt work. I was told I had bad luck. When i requested to see Dr W before my 3rd transfer to discuss why i was not having any luck at all he seemed suprised that i wanted a consult with him. When i walked in he was like 'so what can i do for you?' Umm how about help me get pregnant??! Tell me why you think i am not getting pregnant, have you even read through my file, do you know who i am?! And our nurse in 2nd and 3rd attempt saw us in the waiting room and disnt say a word to us. Not even a 'hi how was the long flight?'. I guess they are there to provide us with young eggs and a transfer. The rest is up to us to look into unfortunately. If i got my bfp the first time i would have thought CFC were the bomb. Im not blaming them for the failures but i wish they were a bit more invested in me personally. I think they are too busy for that. But i am grateful that we have the option to access the generous egg donors through the clinic. That is a blessing.
But also i didnt really have much luck with my clinic here in perth either. They were not interested in finding out why it wasnt working and kept me on the same protocol each time, then after 4 Egg retrieval decided i had bad eggs and should move to Donor. Thinking back now they should have tried to improve my eggs. I was only 31 at the time. But it was easier for them to handball me i guess
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I messaged Dr H to ask what options I have if my 1 frostie does not thaw... After coming such a long way. He said that 95% defrosted ok. In this instances he said I would have the option of an embryo from the egg bank, though he mentioned the bank was not very big. I am yet to find out more details about this. I am happy there is atleast this option, as I too filled out the form to say I was happy to donate any extras to the egg bank. I am a single lady.. So used donor sperm shipped from the U.S.. So no need to take a partners desire for a biological child into consideration. I was thinking.. That by donating.. Then there would be siblings out there for my child to meet if they wanted.
On a different note.. After having a reaction to Gestone last time...I am planning on using Dr WAz drug regime.. Anyone else told Dr H and used another Aussie dr protocol? I am getting WAz to monitor closely this time.. And having a lipoidal wash and endo scratched the month prior.
ECM, sounds like we had a similar experience at CFC. I also found it very impersonal, no one knew who I was, and the issue with Dr W not reading my file. Just got an email to say he is retired now and we need to choose another Dr for our transfer, so hopefully the next one will pay more attention.
I'm 37, but because of endo etc egg quality is a problem for me, but it's also not the full story. My feeling with CFC is they are just focussed on the egg quality and not much else. We have to be our own best advocates. You'd think for the money we are spending they could do a little better though! When are you planning to head back to SA?
I do appreciate the opportunity to access this technology though, and am so grateful to our donor. Am also grateful we have the resources to be able to go to SA.
I also think the Australian system is cruel towards women with serious fertility issues - there are so few real options to access donor eggs or adopt here - makes life much harder for us all. I've found this experience very isolating, which is why these forums are such a blessing.
Last edited by fleetfox; 24-04-2016 at 16:30.
One more question - how do you ladies go managing getting time off work with overseas IVF? I have enough leave banked for the time being but it will run out if I have to keep going back...
Hey @Aquinos77 I just wanted to check in that you received the email with all the info I had for you about the Australian Known Egg Donor program.
If you've got any other questions...myself Maxwellsmum & MamaKes are more than happy to help you out.
Is any-one else going to be in CT on the weekend of the 21st May?
If anyone is looking for a green eyed blonde donor I've just noticed one listed who produced 33 eggs on her last donation!!
Fleetfox, they take care of the donors and eggs, for us its just a couple of appointments and thats it. You're right we have to manage our own individual circumstances.
10mg of Pred would not be enough for conception, especially if thats what you're on in everyday life. FS's specialise in IVF. Dr M specialises in reproductive immunology. CFC don't believe in immune issues so most peoole don't even tell them about the treatment they're on so you manage both together.
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