its only required on the victorian birth certificate
its only required on the victorian birth certificate
Miss Sagi (04-04-2016)
Good luck ladies with you transfers here, I hope it is smooth sailing for you all.
KMP you do this regularly, you get on your soap box about other peoples choices. E.g. Transferring 2 eggs and having twins even though some only resulted in a single birth. Now its 'to keep people properly informed of the law is not being insensitive'. Everyone will have done whatever research they are comfortable with, all the information you want can be found on the web and nothing stops you asking the agencies and clinic. Most people will investigate the ins and out, but if other people don't that's their prerogative as well. It's not up to you to tell everyone what they should know or do.
From 2010 I investigated clinics from Mexico, Czech Republic, Prague and Greece and anywhere else I could find that would have me for a donation, some wouldn't because I'm single. I then found the bubhub thread which gave me South Africa in 2012. Just like all the other clinics I read and re-read all the information I could get on CFC, Vitalab and Groote and all the different agencies, I settled on CFC with help from this very thread and other threads around the world. Settling on an agency is a totally different ball game.
As for the traveling there are agencies (Newlife, traveling donors) that do this in SA, from what I can find the clinis don't work with these agencies as they are not signed up to SASREG. SASREG don't want donors traveling mainly because of the lack of care they receive, donors that have gone to India and other places have been over stimulated and then left in a really bad way.
As for the known and traveling part - SASREG is pretty self explanatory
The agencies should not canvas donors who wish to travel nor facilitate the travelling of donors outside the Republic of South Africa.
Donors are allowed to travel within the borders of South Africa in between different cities under the following conditions:
The continuity of medical care is ensured. After the donation the donor needs to have easy access to a SASREG accredited clinic in case a complication occurs.
Extra travelling costs can be charged to the recipient, however these cost must completely transparent to the recipient.
Anonymity of egg donation
According to South African law, all donations which take place, unless qualified as a ‘known donation’ are to be anonymous and confidential. It is therefore contrary to the law to reveal the identity of an anonymous donor. The use of adult pictures can lead to the identity of an egg donor being compromised. Thus, the consensus is that only pictures of the donor under the age of 10 years are provided to recipients. The donor’s full profile is also available, including medical information, family background, detailed educational, behavioral and physical information. This information will assist recipients with selecting an egg donor. The egg donor’s responsibility ends on the day of egg retrieval; there is no registry and no means to contact the egg donor later in life.
Going by the above it doesn't appear they are wrong.
What should be more of a problem is donors finishing their donation (6) having a year or two off and then signing themselves up to another agency and that agency doesn't know about previous donations as they rely on donors to be truthful. This I know as I found a donor on one site
@mummy2016 im sorry to hear you are having a hard time. I did not have any luck with my 3 cycles last year at CFC. Im yet to discover a real reason why apart from high nkc. Dr M is now helping me and i am on a new protocol with new donor. I totally understand your feeling of despair and confusion. Can you please just remind me of your situation. Was this your first transfer and did you have a proven donor. Sometimes we can just have bad luck, sometimes we have to keep investigating and trying new protocols until finally one day it all falls into place. Sadly some of us never get a real reason why it doesnt work. We just have to keep going until we get the prize or we decide we just cant go on. Its a tough road. Feel free to PM me xxx
Interesting reading regarding all the other stuff being posted about legality. Education is great but lets not forget that this page is for receiving support and love from other ladies who are going through the same things. It is a place we can come to for help and compassion when we cant go anywhere else. We are all making extremely hard decisions regarding our quest for a family and trying to do the best that we can. Some are lucky enough to have been blessed with babies, some of us are still fighting hard. We dont need the extra stress!!!
We all deserve a shipload of babydust!!
Emski and Babywish : I absolutely agree with you. . KMP has posted some rather insensitive comments. This journey is painful and stressful enough without having to deal with such comments.
I had my first cycle this march with CFC and it was not successful and no frozen embryos. Not a proven donor, she was young. 12 eggs, 5 fertilized. 2 transferred and none to freeze.
Waiting to hear back from Dr M.
Researching what next to do, asked dominion fertility for their fees.
Want to move on to the next plan and praying for success and for everyone all the best and good luck.
Last edited by mummy2016; 04-04-2016 at 06:28.
Hi all. I'm an alumni of this site (went to CT in Nov 14 and my beloved daughter was born last July) who some of the oldies might remember... Don't get much time to post these days as my hands are full (also have a seven year old) but try to read along when I can because I feel a great connection to the topic/people going through the same process. (And as we haven't told many people about CT, it's nice to check in (albeit very occasionally!) with people who understand.
Without getting involved in the specifics, I just wanted to say that the reason this thread has been so successful is that everyone is supportive of each other, regardless of different opinions, etc, etc, which should all be respected. I thank the thread for giving me the courage to go to CT and it was a real lifeline before, during and after the process, and I'd hate to see the warm and encouraging 'spirit' of this thread disappear.
As for me, my darling daughter is now eight months old and the light of our lives. Nothing makes me happier than seeing her with her big brother (so happy for those of you who have gone/are going for number two, in particular!) And to those ladies who are going through the process for number one...keep trying, I have everything crossed for you.
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Well said @Patsy73. I too gained my confidence and knowledge to take the huge leap to SA because of this thread. Its about sharing experiences and knowledge and not about telling people whats right and wrong, as we all make our own choices for different reasons.
The end of the other post was chopped so it doesn’t make much sense. It should have read -
This I know as I found a donor on one site that had completed her donations has had three years off; has signed up to another agency to start again. I contacted the agency they hadn’t known this, they have pulled the profile while they investigate. Has anyone else come across this? I know they don’t like for them to be signed to other agencies at the same time so they aren’t double booked.
Patsy73 and I think there was someone else who travelled with an older child but can’t for the life of me remember who it was. How did you find it? Are there any suggestions or advice that you have? I have two pages of things written down from the thread to do but would like to know from someone that has been in case I have missed something. We will be in Cape Town for 3 – 4 wks, Scotland 4 – 5 wks and America 2 – 3 wks. My son will be 8 if we go to Cape Town first before we go home to Scotland or 9 if we go home to Scotland then to Cape Town our last leg either direction will be to America then home to Australia. It may sound confusing to call Australia and Scotland home but they are; my mum is a Scot we have family still there and when I’ve been it is like coming home. It’s the same feeling I get when the plane comes into land at Sydney.
I know there is a possibility that it may not work the first time but we'll have had a holiday of a lifetime and there is always the next time. Everyone has such strength and resilience on this thread to just keep going and that is what I shall be thinking of when its all happening.
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