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    You have to admit, it's more fun than the ever-present "I'm 3dpo, I've tested with a particularly-insensitive IC, and it's a BFN...".

    Look, the bottom line is that I hope I am a good doctor, and I genuinely care about my patients. I am passionate about medical-misinformation, and to this end, am particularly challenged by "Dr Google", and other sources of un-regulated and potentially dangerous sources of online "information". It may sound cheesy, but when I took the Hippocratic Oath, I meant it. I can only hope my colleagues feel the same.

    It's 42 degrees in Melbourne, and I am hot and grumpy. So I will pour myself a medicinal glass of Pinot Grigio, and continue watching re-runs of M*A*S*H, which I love, while hubby watches the kids!

    Good health to you all

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    What if the doctor hasn't mentioned the need for circumcision and then it comes up in a year or so - are they then in the wrong for not mentioning it earlier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICanDream View Post
    What if the doctor hasn't mentioned the need for circumcision and then it comes up in a year or so - are they then in the wrong for not mentioning it earlier?
    This was my thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Californication View Post
    This thread has gone sideways. People are saying we jumped on the Dr - someone show me where??? I've just skimmed and I can't see it on first page and then after that, things went sideways and other symptoms came in to it that were mentioned by other people. Not the OP!

    SAgirl said some thing like "I don't really want to go down the circ route, but what are the other options". She never said she wouldn't. Just she didn't want to. BIG difference. If my DS had ONE issue and a Dr told me he needed to be circ'd, I'd feel the same. It also sounds like there is a bit of history with the senior dr with her comment about if she'd known it was him, she'd have walked out.

    The Dr went straight to possibly needing to be circ'd. No mention of creams or other possible solutions. THAT is what concerns me, not the mention of circ'ing. When my son had the issues, there was no mention of circ. There was no pulling back of the foreskin. My Dr looked but didn't tug/pull/retract. It was "it's probably a fungal infection, get this cream, use it for a few days and if things don't clear up, come back". It cleared up for us like it has for many other posters here. So I find it very odd the Dr didn't say to even try that. He didn't give a referral to a surgeon either, so he basically let SAgirl leave with no treatment or options! I'd be in here asking for advice too in her situation.
    It's actually post #2 that went straight to the 'dr pushing circumcision' and then a comment about ric.

    Also, SAgirl doesn't give that much information about the appointment so we don't know if that's the only thing the dr said. For me at least, my posts haven't been aimed at SAgirl, I get that she heard a possibly scary diagnosis and wants reassurance that she hopefully doesn't have to put her son through surgery. My posts have been directed at the rest of the overall vibe that, like CMF said, it's bad to even mentioned the C word. I agree with cheeesecake, the circ conversation (in general, not just this thread) is going so far the other way of people being anti-circ that questions about a medically necessary one often get a bit over the top. Nobody on here saw the penis so you genuinely can't say it's this or this, you just can't.

    I'm not for or against circumcision, I didn't feel it was necessary for my son but I don't judge those who do.

    I am also not advocating to just blindly take a doctor's advice if it doesn't sit right with you. We spent last Christmas, our first with our baby, in the hospital because a few days before the GP I saw brushed off my concern about a spot on DS' eye being a coldsore, 'I've never heard of a baby getting a coldsore on their eye, it's not possible.' I was right and of course it spread like wildfire and our Christmas was spent in a hospital making sure his sight would be ok. When I went to the GP the next day they started to book me into the same lady and I asked for a different dr because I wanted a second opinion. I do believe there are definitely drs that miss the mark and you should push further with another opinion. But a dr mentioning a possible outcome/treatment is not automatically negligent or pushing their own agenda--that is the point I am trying to make.

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    I'm staying away from BH these days but this is exactly the sort of thread why I am.

    what inflamed it was the accusation that SAGirl essentially does this all the time. Speaks to an expert and then comes on here (after googling) and asks for opinions.

    So what? The initial comment about this was directly aimed at her for doing this. Subsequent posts have stepped away from this but what peeves me on here is when people are criticised for repeating behaviours which are not harmful.

    I did IVF for 8 years. You know what? By the end I knew about as much about my medications and protocols as my FS, to the point where he would sometimes ask my view. So yep doctors know a hell of a lot but they don't know everything and nor can they. So long as we take the advice and are sensible about what we do with it what's the harm in also asking other mums who might have been through a similar experience for their opinions? At no time has she said she won't do it, just she was looking at her son's options.

    Just remember there is a person on the other side of the screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J37 View Post
    Oh for God's sake! This sort of thing needs the attention of a doctor, preferably a Paediatric Surgeon, and NOT anonymous members of Bub Hub. Or the bloody internet!
    SAgirl, you routinely post questions about your son's health (coughing, etc). But in this case, if you disagree with the opinion of two GPs, then ask for an urgent referral to a Paediatric Surgeon.
    This has nothing to do with "routine circumcision"! If your son's foreskin is red and/or swollen, don't you think perhaps he may have some pathology which needs attention?
    (I won't say I'm a doctor, because you know that well and truly by now. In the past I have tried to give you helpful advice, but you seemingly do not care. But I sincerely hope you do the right thing by your son.).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    what peeves me on here is when people are criticised for repeating behaviours which are not harmful.
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    You make some fair points in your post. I just wanted to address this one.

    If a mum was to continually treat medical advice flippantly based on 'preferable' advice obtained by unqualified strangers online then that could have dangerous consequences. Not saying that is what's happened here.

    Have a look at the first few posts on this thread which led to J37's original post - women offering their sons experiences with penile problems, alluding to the facts that the OP probably has nothing to worry about. To me that's concerning.

    I agree with what you said about there is someone on the other side of the keyboard. I know both SA girl and J37 and they are both top chicks. Probably just having a bad day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    You make some fair points in your post. I just wanted to address this one.

    If a mum was to continually treat medical advice flippantly based on 'preferable' advice obtained by unqualified strangers online then that could have dangerous consequences. Not saying that is what's happened here.

    Have a look at the first few posts on this thread which led to JR's original post - women offering their sons experiences with penile problems, alluding to the facts that the OP probably has nothing to worry about.
    I have read the first page and there was nothing in there don't that warranted a direct attack on the OP like the post I quoted directly above. If anything the OP has shown again and again her willingness to consult experts. She just also asks for opinions on here.

    This thread should have lasted about one or two pages. I agree it's an emotive topic and the lines get blurred around it but honestly there are ways of discussing it without making the OP sound like sort of crazy.

    As for SA having a bad day has she even come back after her initial post? I thought it was quite measured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    I have read the first page and there was nothing in there don't that warranted a direct attack on the OP like the post I quoted directly above. If anything the OP has shown again and again her willingness to consult experts. She just also asks for opinions on here.

    This thread should have lasted about one or two pages. I agree it's an emotive topic and the lines get blurred around it but honestly there are ways of discussing it without making the OP sound like sort of crazy.

    As for SA having a bad day has she even come back after her initial post? I thought it was quite measured.
    Something's amiss because I'm agreeing with VP and not you 😧😉.

    I think j37's 'for god sake's' was directed at the other responses, the insinuation of an agenda and the Dr being out of line. I can see how the intensity or 'having a go' came off fully directed at SAgirl but I personally don't think it was. I think her message to SAgirl, although maybe not delivered perfectly, was 'you ask a lot of questions regarding your children's health, please take your dr's opinion more seriously than anonymous people on the internet.'

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