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    Thanks luv. Just got to wait for bt results so prob wont cycle until feb or so. Im not holding much hope as we don't often get them to blast but we will see. Im keener just to get on plane to sa but hubbie wants to give another cycle a shot as he said de will always be there and im still 40.

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    Thought I'd just share what made me drop my bundle this morning as its kinda funny really
    I was getting organised for work when I walked into the dining room and there was a gecko on the wall, but not just any gecko a mummy gecko with a baby on its back! I thought oh great rub my face in it stupid evil gecko and that's when the uncontrollable crying started. Maybe still a lot of hormones in my system

    I really thought with DE I would get to transfer have a few on ice and then if no result that would be it but now????
    Surprisingly DP hasn't said "that's it" in fact he's asking when are going back to see FS. Can't face walking back in there for now, they'll give me the "pity" look - I hate the pity look
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    Miss da sorry to hear about your news. What was your donors egg haul and fert like? Ive got a good friend that got similar news 23 or so eggs 18 embies and none on day 5 absolutely gutting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnite01 View Post
    Miss da sorry to hear about your news. What was your donors egg haul and fert like? Ive got a good friend that got similar news 23 or so eggs 18 embies and none on day 5 absolutely gutting.
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    She had 14 on her last scan, 11 retrieved and only 4 fert, the lab said they eggs were really good quality and that they were surprised at the low fert number.
    When I was having the counselling she kept going on about "when the baby is older" "when the child asks" blah blah and I kept saying "aren't we getting ahead of ourselves here, this may not work"
    Turns out I was right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahli View Post
    @Chiefsgirl Do you mind me asking....did you use Dr M in your cycles leading up to Hawaii or just for your successful DE cycle?
    Of course I don't mind you asking! Sorry it's a long reply.

    I started seeing dr m around June or July of 2014 after 4 failed ivf cycles. I was at a low cost clinic who just kept telling me I had unexplained fertility issues.

    Dr m did a barrage of tests and a hysteroscopy which showed highish Ana at 1:140, slightly high nk in blood and uterus. But he also said he thought it was an egg quality issue. He put me on dhea, l'arginine, l'cartinine, coq10 and also agreed I could try bio pqq mitcondrial optimisers.

    I did one more bfn cycle at the low cost clinic (using dr m's immune protocol).

    I went back to dr m and asked for more testing. We did the hla testing from the Red Cross (takes about 6-8 weeks to get results) which showed dh and I had 5 hla matches (kinda like dna strand matches).

    In the meantime I went to another clinic and fs who rechecked and (14) did his own bt for nk cells (came back high with him too). We started embryo banking for pgd testing, trying different protocols that I had read about but the low cost clinic wouldn't do.

    2 cycles late 2014 and two cycles back to back early 2015 saw me get the pgd results back on Easter Sunday that all embies (about 9 in total) were abnormal.

    I had tried neupogen in my last stim cycle as I had heard that it might help with egg quality, but obviously not😜

    That led us to de in Hawaii. While it was in the back of my mind that maybe de was all I needed, I wasn't prepared to spend $40k on the cycle and not have it work because I didn't do the immune stuff.

    I told dr m that this was it for us, I didn't have time or money to throw away anymore so to do all testing and throw all the drugs at this cycle. I couldn't face another heart breaking bfn. It was hard enough to get my head around de I didn't want the heartbreak of my body failing me yet again.

    It wasn't cheap, and I am so sick of injecting still. But it has been worth it.

    I have learnt to put my name and address in the copy to area of all blood tests and have seen my surface markers go down pre transfer and then flare after transfer, so I think in my case I def needed to do the immune stuff as well as de.

    Please feel free to ask anything at all. I wouldn't have found dr m if another lady on another thread hadn't of pointed me in the direction to investigate. I think fs discount immune issues impacting fertility because they don't understand it. I have heard of so many more getting on board with it in just this last year and a half.😁 yet there isn't a lot of info out there.

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    Was isci used or std ivf? It sounds like your donor had a good response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahli View Post
    @Bongley My cheeky comments revolved around the additional DTD and your lovely high beta!!
    Haha, oh my god, I would die of shock! As an aside, DTD does all throw a little doubt into the maternity genetics doesn't it? In theory the donor conceived embryo might not have made it but one of my eggs may have (never having had a natural pregnancy I know this hasn't a snowballs of happening) . Having said that I'm sure it will happen to someone at some point. If it hasn't already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnite01 View Post
    Was isci used or std ivf? It sounds like your donor had a good response.
    Was that for me?

    Icsi was used. But our donor had an amazing response. When we arrived they said they thought she would give us about 20 eggs. After epu it was 60 eggs, 50 mature, 40 fertilized and 20 embies were good enough to be used). We transferred 2 on day 5 and I think it was 11 frozen that day and the rest frozen in day 6(18 frozen in total)

    From what we had read the US stims harder than SA but it also costs a lot more. Our donor cycle costs were usd$27500 plus flights, accom, drugs here and then I had my immune stuff on top.

    A fet will cost us usd$4500 plus travel and local costs. But we won't need to stim again to get a sibling which is what we wanted.

    Oh and @Tahli dr m died the calls in the evenings. He is always running late do it can be late that you get called! I'm usually the last apt on a wed and my apts are like 630 but I might not get in to see him till after 7pm and he does the calls after that!

    Although it is Xmas, hopefully he won't be as busy🙏

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    @Bongley any more poas action.

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    Sorry @Chiefsgirl i was asking @MissDa. Yiu had an amaze balls response. Thats your entire rugby team right there.

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