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    Quote Originally Posted by BlondeinBrisvegas View Post
    I highly doubt the risk of twins is increased by 50% in women 40+ using their OE's.
    Sorry girls , I think that might be PGD normal embies as those were the stats I was looking at recently. (I've edited the original post in case somebody comes across this in the future).
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    I have seen 50% twin rate quoted for DET with donor embryos (young eggs, good quality). I have not seen stats specifically for over 40's but imagine it would be much lower. Obviously it does happen though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faithandhopellove View Post
    I have seen 50% twin rate quoted for DET with donor embryos (young eggs, good quality). I have not seen stats specifically for over 40's but imagine it would be much lower. Obviously it does happen though.
    Yes..it does happen. One of Wazza's over 40's Ladies is Preggo with OE twins now & is the first one I've come accross since joining this forum who is through IVF using OE's over 40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bongley View Post
    @gagingi if you don't eat a lot, appetite is not a problem and what you do eat is healthy then maybe now is not the time to worry about it, sounds like you would have to either dangerously starve yourself or come off all the meds to lose weight, neither of which would help your fertility.............

    Can you up your exercise? My fitness is a distant memory..... constant IVF meds and stress has knocked me right out of any routine.

    Also, I do lite n easy, both myself and my partner work and it really helps during the week.
    Thanks @Bongley, it's mainly BMI that worries me as its teetering on 30 which is not good for fertility. Whilst I look overweight and people that know me can see a definite (huge) increase, I don't look as big as my BMI indicates, so doctors don't worry about it and I think see it as a vanity issue if I raise it. I probably need to be clearer with them.

    Yes, I definitely need to re-jig the exercise routine, but find it goes pear-shaped during a cycle and I've done 5 cycles in 6 months. I put on another 8-10 kg during a cycle and generally feel pretty unwell, so exercise is tricky, but I think I'll focus on that before stimming again.

    We've have tried L&E, but carbs are not my friend and I put on over a kg/week on their 1200 cal program. I'm tall so that was ridiculous and just made me depressed about ageing! It wouldn't have happened in my 20s or 30s.

    I probably need to get my thyroid checked too as I think stim drugs can irritate it. FS#1 put me on thyroid meds as fertility range is different to general range and I was sub-clinically hypo.

    @Chiefsgirl my diet is pretty much Paleo. DH doesn't follow it, but I do 99.9%. I find some cycle drugs totally put me off food (e.g. Cetrotide) and then I just need calories as I've got quite unwell during some cycles. I also read somewhere though that women's fertility used to be more seasonally driven and carb/fat storage was a signal that times were plentiful and it was a good/safe time for pregnancy - a number of species' fertility is resource dependent, so that would confuse Paleo. Thanks for your suggestions ladies. Grrr, it's all too hard!
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    Given the talk of QFG transfer rates I had a look at their current info pack...

    "As recommended by the Fertility Society of Australia couples under the age of 40 years may have a maximum of two embryos replaced in any treatment cycle. QGF further requires any patient who creates embryos from oocytes aged less than 35 years and is having her first two embryo transfers with those embryos is only eligible to have a single embryo replaced on those two occasions." ... "This is to reduce the risk of multiple pregnancy".

    In another part it says guidelines suggest SET for women <35 and no more than 2 (DET) for women <40. No mention of us over 40s specifically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlondeinBrisvegas View Post
    Yes..it does happen. One of Wazza's over 40's Ladies is Preggo with OE twins now & is the first one I've come accross since joining this forum who is through IVF using OE's over 40.
    I'm not having twins, but am pregnant using OE. I was 41 & 10 months when the eggs were collected, will be 43 when bub is born 😊

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    Congratulations Petal.

    It's always good to hear it does happen. I was reading the stats in the FS's office yesterday and whilst it is a long shot, it's encouraging to know its possible.

    I heard recently of a lady having an OE baby she conceived at 45 and my cousin's partner is naturally pregnant with first at 44 (15 weeks along and all looking good).
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    POAS update: DPO11

    Well, from last night there is still a line, still slightly faint or slightly darker depending on wee dilution. My FMU tends to be quite diluted so I'll wait until SMU before calling today's line if possible. Hopefully it'll start to go one way or the other soon.

    BT is 3 days away.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gagingi View Post
    Given the talk of QFG transfer rates I had a look at their current info pack...

    "As recommended by the Fertility Society of Australia couples under the age of 40 years may have a maximum of two embryos replaced in any treatment cycle. QGF further requires any patient who creates embryos from oocytes aged less than 35 years and is having her first two embryo transfers with those embryos is only eligible to have a single embryo replaced on those two occasions." ... "This is to reduce the risk of multiple pregnancy".

    In another part it says guidelines suggest SET for women <35 and no more than 2 (DET) for women <40. No mention of us over 40s specifically.
    Sure, that's what it says. The reality is slightly different. I think you'll find that the cutoff for DET is 38, unless there are mitigating circumstances clinically. They really don't want everywoman getting two+ embryos each transfer.

    We can continue arguing the semantics of this, but I'm concerned that what's stated here with such authority is slightly incorrect. As a colleague of Wazza's, I guess I get slightly different information and have been trying to explain this others, but have been rejected.

    Good luck to everyone in their journeys, but please be careful about making decisions based on inaccurate statements of fact (however strongly they are believed) and taking advice from armchair clinicians armed with Dr Google.

    Also - I'd hate to see anything from BH used against Wazza by those who are out to restrict his practice. (Yes! It's true, there are people who don't like him or his methods!). That won't help any of us!

    Merry Christmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bongley View Post
    POAS update: DPO11

    Well, from last night there is still a line, still slightly faint or slightly darker depending on wee dilution. My FMU tends to be quite diluted so I'll wait until SMU before calling today's line if possible. Hopefully it'll start to go one way or the other soon.

    BT is 3 days away.

    Oooh Luv...teetering on the edge it seems???

    and prayers being sent for a darker line with your SMU a bit later on!!!


    Am still cheering "Incy" on over the line!!!!
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