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    Does she have a comforter at all? I had real issues getting baby out of swaddle as he def slept so much better with arms contained but now we're out of it fully as I wanted him to be able to use his hands to self settle. He has a soft toy bunny/blanket which he loves, constantly touching the ears with his hands and normally sleeps with the blanket bit over his face. (I've got a breathing alarm to put my mind at rest!) Maybe something like this might help her resettle on her own?

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    @nh2489 she loves soft bamboo muslin always rubs it in her face, sucks it and holds it tight in her hands. So I bought a pack of bamboo muslin face cloths as cuddlies for her and she generally has one in the car seat, one in the pram, one on her play mat and there is one in her cot that I've rubbed over my chest. When she eventually has arms out I'm hoping that works as her comforter as she really likes them (and they come in a pack of 6 lol!).

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    Just wanted to provide a happy update to my post from last week. Well after my horror day Tuesday, when she woke up around 9-10pm on Tuesday and Wednesday night we resettled her back to sleep (only took a few minutes and no tears) and she slept a few more hours after that. Since then she hasn't woken up around that time so maybe we broke that habit.
    Her night sleeps have been much better since we did the resettles on those 2 nights. Thursday-Friday-Saturday night she first woke up to feed between 12-2am and again around 5-6am then back to sleep til 7-8am. Last night she slept 7pm-5:30am no wake ups! I fed her at 5:30 and back to sleep til 7:30. Of course I didn't sleep well last night 😁 but at least she did! I won't expect that as the norm but wow that's amazing.
    And day sleeps. I've been letting her stay awake longer during the day 2-2.5hrs so she is really tired by the time I put her down for a nap and every day she has had 1 decent sleep of at least 1.5hrs (plus 1-2 40 minute naps). Saturday she slept 3hrs in one nap with no resettling!! I was so paranoid about her getting overtired and not sleeping due to that but she seems to cope much better with tiredness now by, well sleeping!
    I'm also letting her put herself to sleep nearly every time as she's going in her cot happy not grizzly or crying so she drifts off by herself which is like gold to me.
    So I haven't really changed much. I have decided though that she decides what she wants to do. If she wants to have a decent nap she will. If she doesn't want to she won't and I can't do anything to make her. But it's amazing how much better I feel with her sleeping a bit better. Combination of my tiredness and my frustration at trying to force her to sleep and failing was not good. Fingers crossed we stay on the up 😊

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingermillie View Post
    Just wanted to provide a happy update to my post from last week. Well after my horror day Tuesday, when she woke up around 9-10pm on Tuesday and Wednesday night we resettled her back to sleep (only took a few minutes and no tears) and she slept a few more hours after that. Since then she hasn't woken up around that time so maybe we broke that habit.
    Her night sleeps have been much better since we did the resettles on those 2 nights. Thursday-Friday-Saturday night she first woke up to feed between 12-2am and again around 5-6am then back to sleep til 7-8am. Last night she slept 7pm-5:30am no wake ups! I fed her at 5:30 and back to sleep til 7:30. Of course I didn't sleep well last night 😁 but at least she did! I won't expect that as the norm but wow that's amazing.
    And day sleeps. I've been letting her stay awake longer during the day 2-2.5hrs so she is really tired by the time I put her down for a nap and every day she has had 1 decent sleep of at least 1.5hrs (plus 1-2 40 minute naps). Saturday she slept 3hrs in one nap with no resettling!! I was so paranoid about her getting overtired and not sleeping due to that but she seems to cope much better with tiredness now by, well sleeping!
    I'm also letting her put herself to sleep nearly every time as she's going in her cot happy not grizzly or crying so she drifts off by herself which is like gold to me.
    So I haven't really changed much. I have decided though that she decides what she wants to do. If she wants to have a decent nap she will. If she doesn't want to she won't and I can't do anything to make her. But it's amazing how much better I feel with her sleeping a bit better. Combination of my tiredness and my frustration at trying to force her to sleep and failing was not good. Fingers crossed we stay on the up 😊
    That's such great news. I've also tried to stop stressing about how much daytime sleep baby gets as I was just spending all day stressed out and it felt like all I was doing was trying to get baby to sleep. Now I just let him sleep if he's tired even if he's only been awake an hour as he seems to her most of his naps in the morning/early afternoon then nothing really after about 4pm. He's pretty grizzly by bed time but it's better than trying to force him to sleep in the late afternoon. It's great when things just click. X

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingermillie View Post
    Just wanted to provide a happy update to my post from last week. Well after my horror day Tuesday, when she woke up around 9-10pm on Tuesday and Wednesday night we resettled her back to sleep (only took a few minutes and no tears) and she slept a few more hours after that. Since then she hasn't woken up around that time so maybe we broke that habit.
    Her night sleeps have been much better since we did the resettles on those 2 nights. Thursday-Friday-Saturday night she first woke up to feed between 12-2am and again around 5-6am then back to sleep til 7-8am. Last night she slept 7pm-5:30am no wake ups! I fed her at 5:30 and back to sleep til 7:30. Of course I didn't sleep well last night 😁 but at least she did! I won't expect that as the norm but wow that's amazing.
    And day sleeps. I've been letting her stay awake longer during the day 2-2.5hrs so she is really tired by the time I put her down for a nap and every day she has had 1 decent sleep of at least 1.5hrs (plus 1-2 40 minute naps). Saturday she slept 3hrs in one nap with no resettling!! I was so paranoid about her getting overtired and not sleeping due to that but she seems to cope much better with tiredness now by, well sleeping!
    I'm also letting her put herself to sleep nearly every time as she's going in her cot happy not grizzly or crying so she drifts off by herself which is like gold to me.
    So I haven't really changed much. I have decided though that she decides what she wants to do. If she wants to have a decent nap she will. If she doesn't want to she won't and I can't do anything to make her. But it's amazing how much better I feel with her sleeping a bit better. Combination of my tiredness and my frustration at trying to force her to sleep and failing was not good. Fingers crossed we stay on the up 😊
    How are things going for you this week @gingermillie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amiracle4me View Post
    How are things going for you this week @gingermillie?
    Thanks for thinking of me. Things are no better after our setbacks 2 weeks ago unfortunately. She's difficult to get down for every nap and only sleeping 40 minutes again during the day and a horror at night. 4-5 wakes up including one stint each night staying awake 2-3hrs and waking up at 5-6am for the day. Last night I had her in bed with me from 1-6am with the light on (she freaked when I tried to turn it off) and she thrashed around most of the time by back and knee are stuffed this morning.
    DH currently trying to get her down for a nap and she's shrieking like a crazed hyena. This is awful the worst she's been in the whole 6 months. At least before when she was crap during the day she would sleep at night, feed and straight to sleep again and not up til 7:30am. This is killing me thank god DH is on holidays. Am going to get referral to our residential sleep school asap.

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    Oh dear 😞 sounds really hectic..
    I'm sorry you're going through that. It sounds like the 4mth sleep regression but super late.. My DD was pretty bad with settling for naps but the thrashing around with the light on is strange..

    Bit of a random suggestion but would it be worth trying her unswaddled? I hear babies let you know when they're ready.

    Good luck with the residential. I'd be really keen to hear what they suggest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingermillie View Post
    Hi all, as many of you would have realized I haven't really taken to motherhood like a duck to water. Combine my ineptitude with a 'difficult' baby (sorry darling girl but you are!) and 5 months in I'm still swimming. Not drowning at least but still trying to keep my head above water. I need help.
    So some background miss A is 5 months + 1 week. She was 1 month prem and only 2.6kg at birth. Now a whopping 6.9kg exclusively breast fed. She has reflux and is on 10mg losec suspension daily. Last week I dropped it to 8mg to see if we could wean off but within a few days she was back to super-grumpy-can't-be-put-down baby so upped it and she's happy again. Went through 4-6 weeks of reflux hell until she started losec.
    She sleeps in her cot and is easy to settle to sleep. Hard part is keeping her asleep. We use white noise, no dummy (she refused thank god for small mercies). I'm in a bit of a mess about her sleeping and feeding. I've always 'offered' to feed rather than going by time or her demanding. So I'll generally offer twice in each awake period to try and feed her up to help her nap. This results in her feeding every 1.5-2hrs during the day. I wonder if it would be better to start stretching day feeds, larger feeds less often instead of smaller more frequent feeds?
    She was sleeping well at night waking 1-2 times. One night she even went 12hrs wow. But usually she was waking between 12-2 and 4-5am. Past few weeks she's waking every 3hrs overnight to be fed and it's starting to take its toll on me. She doesn't like co-sleeping so that's not a solution. Is there any way I can get her back to having one big stretch of sleep? She was consistently doing 6-8hrs then 4-5 and now it's 3hrs. Ugh.
    Next issue is catnapping. I have a feeling this is all feeding into each other. Last week she had ONE nap for the whole week that was longer than 45 minutes. Combine the night wakings with her not sleeping during the day and I'm getting a very short fuse. I've tried resettling for half an hour (just gets me so wound up and frustrated), leaving her to settle back to sleep. Longer wake times, shorter wake times. She self settles to sleep most times so it's not an issue of being fed or rocked to sleep but nothing seems to work. Incidentally she's just woken after 40 minutes. Grrrr.
    We don't have a 'routine' she naturally wakes between 7-7:30 and goes to bed 6:30-7pm with shower, feed, bed at night. Her awake times are generally 2hrs. Due to the catnapping there's no set nap times. Do I need to start a more rigid routine?
    She's not on solids. Not ready yet - I've tried a couple of times. She's only 19 weeks by due date so I'm not fussed will keep trying over the next month or two.
    The other issue is she absolutely refuses a bottle. I feel like giving her to someone for a week to sort all this out then getting her back 😢
    So please, any advice on what to do with her day feeding schedule, catnapping and reducing night feeds?? I'm not a cry it out person but by golly at her third wake up overnight I did think about it 😬 I'm meant to go back to work 1 day a week from home in 2 months. I can't fathom that with this tiredness. Thanks lovely hubbers 😘
    Hi,

    Sorry to hear things are so hard. I feel your frustration.

    Is your bubs reflux under control? Losec is dependant on weight so you may need a mess review.

    Also is the losec a suspension or tablet? I found tablets better as the suspension losses it's effectiveness.

    And when do you give the meds? You could try giving 1/2 the dose in the morning and other half in the evening before bed, your Bub may sleep better.

    My son has been on losec since 4 months (he is now 13.5 months). He also has a CMPI so is also on a special formula.

    In terms of a routine it's really up to you. I'm a firm belief in routine. I think from memory, and this is just a guideline as all bubs are different, a 5 month old should be feeding every 3-4hrs and have 2-3 naps a day.

    Don't be too hard on yourself. Your Bub self settles and that's amazing. I had a sleep consultant come in with my son when he was 5 months (and his reflux was under control) she was all about reading and listening to baby's cry and responding appropriately. She never left him the whole time. I am not sure what your comfortable with but she basically laid him in his cot and patted him to sleep, talking to him the whole time- it was such a gentle process and he benefited from it greatly. But, you need to do what your comfortable with. Sleep training isn't easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingermillie View Post
    Thanks for thinking of me. Things are no better after our setbacks 2 weeks ago unfortunately. She's difficult to get down for every nap and only sleeping 40 minutes again during the day and a horror at night. 4-5 wakes up including one stint each night staying awake 2-3hrs and waking up at 5-6am for the day. Last night I had her in bed with me from 1-6am with the light on (she freaked when I tried to turn it off) and she thrashed around most of the time by back and knee are stuffed this morning.
    DH currently trying to get her down for a nap and she's shrieking like a crazed hyena. This is awful the worst she's been in the whole 6 months. At least before when she was crap during the day she would sleep at night, feed and straight to sleep again and not up til 7:30am. This is killing me thank god DH is on holidays. Am going to get referral to our residential sleep school asap.
    Things any better for you @gingermillie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amiracle4me View Post
    Things any better for you @gingermillie?
    Thanks for thinking of me again. No better sadly. We are off to day sleep service today which is a prerequisite for going to the residential program. Her day sleeping has been better but overnight is beyond awful. Last night she went to sleep 7:15pm woke up
    9pm resettled
    10:30 fed
    1am resettled
    1:30am-3am awake trying to resettle fed at 3am
    5:30am fed as way too tired to resettle
    6:20 up for the day.
    How do I feel today? 😡🔫
    At a total loss. She's having all sleeps arms out and during the day she's having at least 1 x 1.5-2.5hr sleep plus 1-2 other sleeps depending on timing/if we are out/home etc. DH is still on holidays this week but next week I'm on my own.
    I've tried her in bed with me multiple times and it doesn't work. I've slept in her room. I've slept in her room with the light on so she can see me. Beyond just letting her cry (which I'm not comfortable with) I don't know what we can do. I've experimented with her afternoon nap times to see if that makes a difference. We've started solids in earnest but she's not taking much if any at all yet as she refuses the spoon and wants to feed herself which is more just gumming a piece of fruit/veg/toast. Her day feeds are now at least 3hrly so she's not snacking so bad. A pp mentioned her losec dose (sorry didn't see til today) but I think her reflux is fine.
    Hoping things naturally improve. It's been over 3 weeks of total exhaustion now (on top of 6 months of difficulties). I'm not coping that well, on a very short fuse.


 

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