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    @bbhope my boobs feel engorged if Bub doesn't suck or if I don't pump in 4 hours. I try to pump and nurse regularly so my boobs feel soft snd empty all the time. I read feel engorged means I'm not releasing the milk enough and the body won't know to make more milk.

    Ladies what do you do when you go out? We are out right now. Bub has been sleeping since 12 pm so 2.5 hours now and I don't have access to pump as I'm not home. I feel a bit stressed like I should be home pumping instead if Bub is sleeping.
    @Gelati your top up is still less than mine. Think I do 3 x 60ml top up mainly at night. During the day if she wants top up I give her EBM.

    When can you weigh your Bub @Gelati? It might be a good idea to do if so you aren't second guessing about his weight.


    Also good to hear the mastitis is getting better. Do you do heat pack and ice pack? Might help with the lumps.

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    I don't know. My boobs didn't feel engorged all the time. Only when in the morning after I woke up from sleep. Something to do with the hormone in the morning.

    No suggestion of what to do. Sadly, I haven't "gone out" with DS at all. Walking with the pram is just in the neighbourhood. I don't know when we will bring him out at all. He makes a big fuss when tired and refuses to sleep anywhere. Even in the carrier, he would wake up with a big cry.

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    @Minib I'm so jealous Bub can sleep for so long during the day so you can go out. Does she wake up when you take her out of the car? How do you get her back to sleep if she wakes up and you feed her?

    Before I got sick I would get engorged every 2.5 hrs from start of the last feed and sometimes wouldn't express and was fine. Couldn't go more than 4 hrs from the start of the last feed tho. But now that I've had mastitis I would say be careful. I would probably have gotten mastitis eventually the way I was going anyways. I've learnt my lesson the hard way. At night once I went 7 hrs without expressing when ds slept ages and woke up feeling awfully full and breasts were rock hard and so full. Luckily ds woke up and fed. Not even sure if he emptied it fully. I let down probably 7 times. Again nothing happened to me. Who knows if I ever would have gotten mastitis if I hadn't gotten sick but just be careful.

    It's the weirdest thing I don't know what is going on. I mean I gave him 50ml express milk today (from my pre sick days) and he only drank 20ml and I forced another 15ml an he was falling not asleep on the bottle and no longer sucking. He left about 15-20ml in the bottle. I was sad to throw away my precious breast milk but didn't want to force him and over feed him so that he would feed on me less. I try to get at least 5 let downs - takes me about 40-50min to feed now. Sigh! So does that mean he's getting enough? He then went on to sleep for over an hr. He's still only done one poo today. I dunno...

    I do heat while feeding then massage. No ice as inflammation has gone down from medication. I think it is better but hope I'm not jumping the gun. This mastitis has given me lots of anxiety.

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    She is asleep most of the time when we go out. Couple times she woke up I just fed her. She is unsettled but got better once we put her in the pram or bjorn. She seems to like the moving motion. I always make sure she has a big feed before we go out ie EBM top up. Otherwise think she would cry all the time. Not good for my milk production though yeah?

    Yeah I've gotten a bit lazy to pump overnight too but I woke up felt awful one time so I was too scared of mastitis. I pumped twice overnight on average. Wouldn't go longer than 4 hours without pumping or nursing. But 2.5 hours is ideal.
    @Gelati does your milk change in taste with the antibiotics? I'm not quite sure why your ds needs less milk? Did you ring aba? They might be able to help? When is your next MHN appointment?

    I'll be so sad to throw my breastmilk. 15ml is so precious. But wouldn't be right to force him. I can sense your frustration and anxiety because of the mastitis. It's so annoying. I feel sad for you as you've worked so hard to increase the milk supply. Harder than me as I've cheated a few times with top up. Cluster feeding doesn't always work for us. Some days she won't sleep at all because she wants more milk no matter how long she's on the boobs. Maybe I just took the easy way out.

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    I feel so naive. Before I gave birth, I was thinking would wean her off at 12 months. Who would have thought now I'm aiming for 6 weeks of BF then reassess. I'm so disappointed at myself. I think my body doesn't have high milk supply but maybe I could have done better. Yet I really don't want to push myself to craziness stressing out too much about BF. Now ideally I'd really like to BF until 4 months when she starts solid but honestly would be happy with 6 weeks. Every week of mixed feeding is a win for us. I know I could do better and everyday I beat myself for not staying home daily and just feed 24/7.
    @bbhope morning definitely has the most milk. My friend told me between 4 to 7 am is the best for volume. So I tried to pump between those hours. Are you exclusively formula fed now? When did you decide to do that again? Are you much happier now that you have one less thing to stress about? I was also worried my girl would cry a lot when I go out but I thought I'll give it a go and deal with it. Too scared I'll be house bound 24/7 otherwise. I'm a bit selfish. I want us to have some time to not be at home.

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    Sometimes my common sense kicks in. Before we got pregnant all we want is a baby. I never asked any of my friends if they BF or bottle feed their babies. All babies grow up anyway. As long as they are healthy doesn't matter how they are fed.

    And now I'm so caught up by this BF thing. I want to give my baby the best and supposedly BF is the best. But at what cause? If I'm always sad about not being able to provide enough milk will my baby be happy as well?

    I'm rambling. I'm just so annoyed why it's so hard for us and for some women their milk just flow.
    @Tanej78 when it's your turn just remember as long as you have a healthy baby don't put too much pressure on yourself.

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    @Minib - you stop beating yourself up about this lady. You have done what is best for you and Bub. If top ups don't seem to bother bubs (I.e he's less happy, constipated etc) and you're happy what's wrong with that?? I chose to put myself thru this cos this is what I wanted. I also was seeing progress and appropriate weight gain. Just cos you did something diff to me who says that's bad? My Bub as a result hadn't gone out much or had many visitors. Is that better? Probably not. Bub needs fresh air too. Unfortunately for us low supply women we had to choose.

    I think you are doing awesome. I can't believe you've already been out alone.

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    @Minib I'm going to see if I can book in a weigh in on Friday to make sure all is good

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    Default Day 5 blasto FET on day 4? #3

    Quote Originally Posted by Minib View Post
    I feel so naive. Before I gave birth, I was thinking would wean her off at 12 months. Who would have thought now I'm aiming for 6 weeks of BF then reassess. I'm so disappointed at myself. I think my body doesn't have high milk supply but maybe I could have done better. Yet I really don't want to push myself to craziness stressing out too much about BF. Now ideally I'd really like to BF until 4 months when she starts solid but honestly would be happy with 6 weeks. Every week of mixed feeding is a win for us. I know I could do better and everyday I beat myself for not staying home daily and just feed 24/7.
    @bbhope morning definitely has the most milk. My friend told me between 4 to 7 am is the best for volume. So I tried to pump between those hours. Are you exclusively formula fed now? When did you decide to do that again? Are you much happier now that you have one less thing to stress about? I was also worried my girl would cry a lot when I go out but I thought I'll give it a go and deal with it. Too scared I'll be house bound 24/7 otherwise. I'm a bit selfish. I want us to have some time to not be at home.
    Keep at it! It's hard. I had a c section due to breach and it was planned but turned pretty scary. My milk wasn't coming in and she was little and a sleepy feeder. Then I got mastitis twice and was sick as a dog.

    My baby would scream for hours for what we now know through specialists was reflux and cow's milk protein intolerance (and was having formula top ups for 8 weeks so each top up made her feel worse!)

    What I did
    1) saw a lactation consultant through my health nursing service. I went every week. She was amazing.
    2) natures way fenugreek, 6 per day.
    3) saw doctor for a script, domperidone 10mg. 3 per day.
    4) heaps of skin to skin
    5) pumped as often as I can (you do get more at night but don't focus on volume, it's about stimulating supply. If you need the sleep, sleep. Sleep is so important for supply! Rest!)
    6) heaps of oats (good for supply)

    But the biggest - don't consider yourself a failure if it doesn't work!) set small goals. 6 weeks. 8 weeks. 12 weeks. When I relaxed and accepted either outcome my feeding became much more relaxed. If you are anxious you don't get a nice let down.

    My little girl is 8 months now and still going strong. I came off all the tablets around 4 months. Good luck. The first months are just so hard but you will get through.

    It also helps to know when growth spurts are
    6-8 weeks. Baby may scream all the time for a feed . Doesn't mean your supply is low.

    12 weeks. See above
    6 months

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    Default Day 5 blasto FET on day 4? #3

    Our visitors just left. And I am catching up but will turn to bed soon.
    @Minib: I struggled a lot. I posted on the breastfeeding thread on BH a while ago asking the same question: when do people decide to give up breastfeeding? Exactly like you, 2w in, I already doubting myself. I didn't stop top up. I didn't want to waste my breast milk so I always gave DS small amount like 30ml or so EBM and top up when I took a nap. When I was certain that he drank 90ml, I gave him the whole bottle with EBM in one go. Again, like you, I wanted to do 6 months and even thought about how to do it when I return to work. Then, I struggled. 4w, 6w and then 4 months goal. But it was DS who made a decision for me when to stop in the end. His colicness got a lot out of me when my mom left. He fussed even on my boobs which put me off a lot. I didn't have time to eat. Let's alone pumping. I didn't want to get blocked duct again. I completely gave up by 8w but I kept on going with minimum mortilium so I still had milk production without the need of pumping. I fed DS with a bit of milk when he wanted comfort sucking. I still let him comfort suck despite of no more milk production. I am still sad from time to time but that's mainly because social pressure. All my local friends here breastfed their bub well over 1 yrs old. However, when I spoke to a few distant friends some of them gave up early like me as well. I have come to peace with it now. It is what works for your family. DH and I had the discussion and we decided that formula feed works best for us given that DS has reflux, wind and sleep issues. With formula feeding, we at least won't second guess how much he is drinking and focus on other things. Not saying it is easier but at least it takes a lot of stress off myself. I can go out for a short shopping trip while DH takes care of him on weekend. I can bottle feed him in the car while DH drives. I do like the idea of food on tap but I realise that my supply will never get there. Stop top up and let bub cries for hunger is not for me since I have has enough of his crying (if you have a colic baby)! One of my colleagues, who recently have a baby, told me that she didn't off expressing until 12w. it is a personal choice. What works for me, might not work for you.

    I recalled the conversation we had with a male colleague who decided to formula feed from the beginning and we actually wondered why when one can just breastfeed. Now we can totally understand the stress.
    Last edited by bbhope; 03-01-2016 at 23:13.


 

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