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    Quote Originally Posted by gingermillie View Post
    Thanks @Full House. I assume longer term wrapping is arms out. And yes she will fall asleep in the car and pram with no wrap (only short naps 20-30 minutes).
    For my baby and my friend's babies who were long term wrappers it was arms in...it was never a problem One in particular, her baby would be asleep within a minute or two as soon as she was wrapped...it was incredible to watch! Her mum used to say she'd wrap her until she was 5 if she wanted it because she slept so well when wrapped....she stopped of her own accord around 18 months.
    In all honesty, we all have our preferences for sleeping....pillow choice, tight sheets or loose sheets, pj's or no pj's...at the end of the day we all choose to sleep how we are most comfortable....so why do we try and 'train' a baby to sleep a certain way (excluding SIDS guidelines of course)? Even if you end up with a 5 year old being wrapped to sleep (and you won't!) so what? It's not hurting anyone to do so...so just go with it, don't stress over it and be happy that the simple act of wrapping allows your baby to have longer stretches of sleep at night!
    Sometimes I think we're own worst enemies with our ideals as to how our babies should sleep....but I can tell you now that I don't worry at all that my primary school aged kids all having different sleeping preferences

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    I agree with every thing that @Full House said.

    Every bloody thing.

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    Default 4 month sleep regression? HELP!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Full House View Post
    One of my babies was swaddled into 9 months...she transitioned out of in a day, never had any other type of comforter (yah for not carrying around small blankies for years and panicking if one gets lost), and the rolling in their sleep just didn't happen for that child, as swaddling was with arms in until 9 months, and the momentum to roll when wrapped like a caccoon just wasn't there (this was pre fancy wrap days so not sure how they work...but wrapping in large muslin wraps worked a treat)....so I call bs to your claims. I know quite a few people who would wrap their babies until they were around 12 months old...each baby decided they didn't need to be wrapped of their own accord, and transitioned just fine. No issues.
    Also, why does a baby need to have a comforter of some sort? It was never a goal of mine to get mine attached to any particular kind of comforter...after my first (the swaddled baby) we co-slept...each child transitioned out of our bed of their own accord by 12 months and no comforter was required. Win win
    Feel free to call BS if that makes you feel better however I stand by what I've said.

    Comforters that don't require adult intervention to maintain can help bub sleep through (in their own bed) without the risks of swaddling (once rolling) well before 12 months (when possibly less than desirable sleep practices have become habit).

    If you want to swaddle to an older age and co-sleep that's fine. I enjoyed 12 hours of bub sleeping through in their own bed from 5-6 months. I can't sleep with a baby in the bed.
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    Default 4 month sleep regression? HELP!!

    Quote Originally Posted by gingermillie View Post
    Thanks @VicPark Either way getting her out of it now or later is going to be a challenge.
    That's what I thought with my second. I used a comforter in the cot for about a month before stopping swaddling. Within 2 weeks of stopping swaddling there was a full blow love affair with the comforter. Once his hands were free is when the relationship really took off.

    Of course don't stop swaddling if you don't want to. If you do though don't be too scared - there are plenty of tricks and tips to help bub bond with a comforter.

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    I think just keep going. I know it's hard to sleep while they're awake but at least the baby is happy.

    My youngest was really the only one who went through that regression. She was such an awesome sleeper that it really knocked me.

    I just put her in bed with me and would feed her lying down as it was the only way my sleep wasn't badly interrupted and I had a 4 and 2 year old at the time as well. It lasted about 6 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Feel free to call BS if that makes you feel better however I stand by what I've said.

    Comforters that don't require adult intervention to maintain can help bub sleep through (in their own bed) without the risks of swaddling (once rolling) well before 12 months (when possibly less than desirable sleep practices have become habit).

    If you want to swaddle to an older age and co-sleep that's fine. I enjoyed 12 hours of bub sleeping through in their own bed from 5-6 months. I can't sleep with a baby in the bed.
    Co-sleeping or not co-sleeping doesn't bother me, but you can't sprout false truths as facts like you did. SIDS guidelines mention nothing about swaddling being dangerous, midwives who looked after me never told me there was a time limit for safety of swaddling....so I call bs on your bogus fact that you have made up to suit yourself.
    If the op wants sleep training advice then you would be the best person to speak to for sure (well out of the two of us anyway because I never did it), but it's also fine if the OP decides to keep swaddling and comforting her baby if that's what she feels most comfortable doing. It can cause so much stress and anxiety for some parents to 'sleep train' because either their baby isn't responding like the books say they should, or because it just feels so unnatural for them. And that's okay.
    Just like you enjoyed your baby cuddling a comforter and sleeping 12 hours in their own bed, I enjoyed co-sleeping and providing my babies with human comfort. Was I tired? Sure....sometimes...but if I had another baby I'd parent in the exact same way because it suited our family and my kids are well rounded, happy kids with no sleep issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingermillie View Post
    Thanks @VicPark interesting article! I'm lucky in that she won't fall asleep on me, and she doesn't like sleeping in my bed just her cot. She is always awake when she goes in her cot too and the only active thing we do for settling/resettling is pushing the cot (on wheels) and she has white noise on. I try not to push the cot til she's asleep instead stop when she seems calm so she can drift off to sleep. The last 2 nights she has woken her usual twice for a feed. A handful of times she has woken just once which is great but no idea how it happened.
    I do think being wrapped is a comfort thing for her. And definitely her sleep cue. Either way getting her out of it now or later is going to be a challenge.
    I think you're doing amazing to be at the point you are having her sleep on her own happily in her cot so I second what most people have said and don't stress about the swaddle yet. I would love to be even half way close to where you are at and I think most of my present problems started when I tried to get him out of the swaddle and things just went downhill. Now I'm at the stage where things can't get much worse so I feel I should try and see it through otherwise I've wasted weeks and for me I know ds will be better once he can use his hands for sucking and he's already starting to use a comforter when he's got an arm out.
    Just sit right, wait a bit longer and if you're concerned re rolling make sure she has her arms up so can push herself and head up if she gets onto her front. I have a snuza breathing alarm which clips onto the nappy and I love it for peace of mind knowing that if he did roll over and got stuck, the alarm would go off if he didn't breathe for a few seconds.

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    I went through every sleep regression with DS. They suck and they knock the wind out of you. I've given this advice lots on here;

    - it's not your fault
    - it's nothing you're doing right or wrong, it's developmental and you can't stop it
    - it is normal
    - it will end!
    - fighting it makes it worse for your own sanity
    - it will end!

    Acceptance is key. The best info I've found is from ask moxie- she has oodles of info about all sleep regressions.

    http://askmoxie.org/blog/2006/02/qa_what_are_sle.html

    Did I say it will end? I promise it will. Hugs, it sucks hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Full House View Post
    Co-sleeping or not co-sleeping doesn't bother me, but you can't sprout false truths as facts like you did. SIDS guidelines mention nothing about swaddling being dangerous, midwives who looked after me never told me there was a time limit for safety of swaddling....so I call bs on your bogus fact that you have made up to suit yourself.
    If the op wants sleep training advice then you would be the best person to speak to for sure (well out of the two of us anyway because I never did it), but it's also fine if the OP decides to keep swaddling and comforting her baby if that's what she feels most comfortable doing. It can cause so much stress and anxiety for some parents to 'sleep train' because either their baby isn't responding like the books say they should, or because it just feels so unnatural for them. And that's okay.
    Just like you enjoyed your baby cuddling a comforter and sleeping 12 hours in their own bed, I enjoyed co-sleeping and providing my babies with human comfort. Was I tired? Sure....sometimes...but if I had another baby I'd parent in the exact same way because it suited our family and my kids are well rounded, happy kids with no sleep issues.
    This!!!

    I'm onto my third child and I'd still parent them the same way , warts and all. Why?

    Cos I believe in a human comforter for babies and children. Because my family thrives on it.

    And VP. I'm with @Full House. It's BS that swaddling is dangerous. Stop sprouting wrong information as gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyla View Post
    I went through every sleep regression with DS. They suck and they knock the wind out of you. I've given this advice lots on here;

    - it's not your fault
    - it's nothing you're doing right or wrong, it's developmental and you can't stop it
    - it is normal
    - it will end!
    - fighting it makes it worse for your own sanity
    - it will end!

    Acceptance is key. The best info I've found is from ask moxie- she has oodles of info about all sleep regressions.

    http://askmoxie.org/blog/2006/02/qa_what_are_sle.html

    Did I say it will end? I promise it will. Hugs, it sucks hard.
    This this this!!!

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