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    Genuine question: are there any credible, independent, scientific/academic studies that detail how Un-schooling is beneficial (and not detrimental) for children? And how children that are unschooled grow up to have happy, healthy, prosperous lives?

    To me, such an endorsement is the difference between a hair-brained idea from people who think they know better but in reality don't, and an innovate and good idea. Not picking on unschooling, that's a philosophy I apply to anything - whether it be traditional schooling/homeschooling/unschooling, vaccination/anti-vaccination, delayed solids or not, etc etc

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    @Homeschooling4 I'm not trying to attack you at all, and I can tell you are feeling defensive, but I am really interested...

    The examples you gave before (which I would call real world applications of skills ie cooking, writing letters etc) are, to me, experiences that any good or half-good parent would expose their child to. I don't think the majority of parents just say 'I don't know' when their child wonders something. I think parents do say 'Great question! Let's find out! Now where could we find the answer to that? What do you think?' These examples aren't the sole domain of unschooling/homeschooling parents.

    So, in your opinion, how does it value add to what children would experience at school? I'm not asking you to justify your choices or whether you think it's better than formal schooling or anything...just, what is the cherry on top?

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    So, in your opinion, how does it value add to what children would experience at school? I'm not asking you to justify your choices or whether you think it's better than formal schooling or anything...just, what is the cherry on top?
    Maybe it reduces pressure that can drive some kids to despair? (Eg exams in highschool)

    Maybe it is more beneficial for kids that don't learn the way main****** schools teach? Some kids with special needs/unique learning styles can suffer if their school teacher isn't resourced/trained to cater to their needs (bit hard to cater to everyone in classes of 20+ kids).

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    That was my earlier point Harvs. When happens in an unschooling day happens in every household that uses main****** education. My eldest and I recently got into a conversation about what the Crucible was about. We then chatted for ages about the Salem Witch Trials, the themes of the Crucible, the hysteria that ensued. We then sat down together on the computer and further researched it. That would be a classic unschooling moment - following a child's interests. She also learned long division, addressed an important ceremony as Captain and learned about Post-Impressionist painting that day at school. The latter two were things I could not have offered her at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GucciDahling View Post
    Are you serious? For someone who doesn't seem to believe in school you're participating in rather school yard type behaviour. "My friends are all laughing at you. So there"

    School is the worst place to learn and socialise? According to who?

    No one is saying school is the only way, we're saying it's part of a well rounded childhood.

    You say you have to register homeschooled kids with the Gov. But you're not home schooling. You're unschooling. So does that mean you're knowingly lying to the Govt about what your kids are doing?
    Nope. Not lying. Unschooling is a type of homeschooling. There's many types of homeschooling. It's perfectly legal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    That was my earlier point Harvs. When happens in an unschooling day happens in every household that uses main****** education. My eldest and I recently got into a conversation about the Crucible was about. We then chatted for ages about the Salem Witch Trials, the themes of the Crucible, the hysteria that ensued. We then sat down together on the computer and further researched it. That would be a classic unschooling moment - following a child's interests. She also learned long division, addressed an important ceremony as Captain and learned about Post-Impressionist painting that day at school. The latter two were things I could not have offered her at home.
    Same here, except it was my eight year old gorilla obsessed boy - we looked at photos, talked about the threat of extinction and under his steam and my vague supervision, he typed up a report on Gorillas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Maybe it reduces pressure that can drive some kids to despair? (Eg exams in highschool)

    Maybe it is more beneficial for kids that don't learn the way main****** schools teach? Some kids with special needs/unique learning styles can suffer if their school teacher isn't resourced/trained to cater to their needs (bit hard to cater to everyone in classes of 20+ kids).
    Absolutely, but surely homeschooling would be enough to cater to those scenarios?

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    Don't you send your kids to school 2 days a week though and plan to use the main****** high school system? That genuinely confuses me. If you think it's so awful why continue to use it, and to enrol your eldest in full time main******?

    I'm trying to be polite but I hardly think citing opinions on a home schooling forum proves anything. That's like an anti vaxxer putting negative comments made to them on the AVN site then saying the anti vaxxer's opinions prove they are right.

    TBH this thread has highlighted why so many are against unschooling.
    Two of them go to a co-op school. It's a school for home/unschoolers. It's not the same as main******. Google "Hurstbridge learning co-op"
    As for my eldest, she has mentioned this. She isn't high school age til 2018, so she could change her mind. I'm not against school as a whole but there are many things I don't agree on.
    This high school is for homeschoolers. Daughter has been in school (primary school obviously) and wants to see what high school is like (she'd only be going once a week with other homeschoolers). It's her choice (just like unschooling was a choice we made as a family) and I will support it. And believe it or not i would support my kids' decision to be in school full time if they wanted, even through gritted teeth.

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    Absolutely, but surely homeschooling would be enough to cater to those scenarios?
    When it comes down to it though, if the parent is not qualified to teach/not dedicated enough to teach does it really matter if the curriculum is state driven as opposed to child driven? In that scenario is the benefit of a state driven curriculum that much greater?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homeschooling4 View Post
    ). It's her choice (just like unschooling was a choice we made as a family) and I will support it. And believe it or not i would support my kids' decision to be in school full time if they wanted, even through gritted teeth.
    Genuine question OP: how long ago did you start unschooling/homeschooling? What scenarios led to this? (Ie what was going on in your family life/kids school life at the time) Who first suggested it?

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