I'm not a radical unschooler, my children have set bedtimes (we draw the line at 11pm), they are encouraged to brush their teeth daily as well as shower. I provide them with a balanced diet too.
Personally I coulnt do radical unschooling, but it works for others.
We unschool only through a learning sense.
Last edited by Homeschooling4; 02-07-2016 at 00:10.
I'm seeing a lot of confusion between homeschooling and unschooling and how either work.
As stated previously, the requirements for curriculum and oversight of any sort differ from state to state. In NSW for example, i daresay it would be very difficult to "unschool" to the extent that I'm seeing described here.
I have experienced the bad side of homeschooling but I've also been exposed to the good. Homeschooling can be wonderful and offer incredible opportunities for children, just like mainstream schooling. It just might run on a different schedule and take place between home, tutors and special classes - with other homeschoolers AND mainstreamers - and extra curricula activities (specialised music/art, electronics classes run by professors via co-ops, any sport you can think of, to give some random examples) as opposed to the one venue day in day out. It isn't the trainwreck some people seem to think it is.
I can't really say anything for unschooling as my understanding of it is limited and it's not for me (I'm quite fond of homeschooling though, having seen both sides of the coin) but i don't think it's fair to flame someone for their choices in the name of curiosity.
And yes I've also experienced public and private schools before and after my homeschooling experience so i feel that im not speaking out of my **** with no real life comparison or experience
Last edited by Yoghurt; 02-07-2016 at 00:32.
In fairness i can understand the concern of parent's choice vs child welfare but that's something we wont all be able to agree on all the time about anything anyway.
As parents we have that power.
It worries me that some children might end up disadvantaged in some way from their parents choices (there are far worse ones than unschooling) but I'd hate to live in a country that took those choices away.
The people i know that have expressed interest in "unschooling" have only done so in regards to very early education so I'm not sure how it progresses beyond that point. So that's something I'd be curious to know more about. It's probably not impossible but i do understand the concern that these kids would then struggle with structured learning in tafe, uni etc. I'm definitely interested to learn more. Perhaps there can be a transition period toward the end of their un/schooling as preparation.
As stated earlier, it's very easy to do TAFE courses (school cert, and HSC equivalents, and otherwise) and uni prep courses straight from a non mainstream schooling background. I actually know many people who finished year 12 at conventional schools who then had to do this anyway to get the scores they needed and ended up further behind than those that did the courses after years of homeschooling. Funny that.
I think though, that the issue with additional study isn't just about how long it takes or how accessible they are. How is a young adult going to cope doing these modules at tafe or uni after years of no formal education and no experience with exams, handing in essays etc? They are coming from an environment of no benchmarks or one very much consumed with them, with meeting scores, marks, dealing with exam conditions.
SSecret Squirrel (02-07-2016)
My experience with homeschooling did involve entensive essay writing and meeting high standards but no there weren't exams per se. Some tutors etc do their own tests or exams and whatnot. I don't think it would be too hard to do practice runs of some sort with the same structure NAPLAN etc would follow, in order to prepare for something more formal.. although tafe HSC exams are also not quite like the classic high school experience either.
From memory other than the odd standardized test scattered throughout school years (NAPLAN etc) the only prep for HSC isn't something only a school environment could achieve. What i mean is, you wouldnt sit there doing multiple practice runs before sitting "the big one". You would study in other ways and do perhaps ONE practice go first.
Still a valid concern though, i do get where you're coming from.
It really does depend on how that individual was schooled. I guess that's why states like NSW have the standards that they do.
Actually I wanted to say, before i forget, that i don't think it's terribly fair to say that because someone has seen homeschoolers with poor grammer etc that that is indicative of the standards of all homeschooling education, ie that we're a load of ****ing idiots.
I see plenty of disgraceful writing from people who only ever went to conventional schools and even a conversation with them in person can be painful. I'd never point it out to them though, let alone in an online forum where people should feel comfortable being colloquial and are free to make typos.
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