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    Quote Originally Posted by Moxy View Post
    I've lurked this entire thread and have a genuine question: how is unschooling different to just not sending kids to school? As I understand it, all kids have to be enrolled in one form of education or another, whether that be formal school or homeschooling. It's been said that unschooling is a type of homeschooling therefore legal, but in reality how is it any different to just not sending your kids to school?
    I *think* because unschooling comes under the wide banner that is homeschooling.
    It's a bit crap because I know people who periodically homeschool and then their kids merge back into our school seemlessly and then I know others that...don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Genuine question OP: how long ago did you start unschooling/homeschooling? What scenarios led to this? (Ie what was going on in your family life/kids school life at the time) Who first suggested it?
    I'm not the OP, but I guess you're asking me???

    Um... There wasn't any defying moment or anything. The girls were in school (prep and prep to grade 2), I was a single mum, wanting to travel a bit (didn't happen though ). I looked into alternative education as I wasn't happy with the current school system (I'm still not). Xmas/summer holidays one year we discussed homeschooling. Kids were happy. I was happy. I'd never heard of unschooling, but meeting with others who do this and researching it all made sense. Before that we were doing relaxed homeschooling (which id be quite happy to do again). Some of the reasons I like unschooling or homeschooling:

    More family time
    More time to travel/holidays in the off peak season
    No school schedules, not having to hurry home to pick kids up
    Kids can learn at their own pace
    No tests or grades
    No bribery or punishments (this goes for life outside of schooling too for us)
    Kids aren't being forced to plsy with children they don't like or who bully them
    Kids learn what they want and when
    Not competing for attention with 30 other students (only competing for attention with 3 other children instead lol)
    Diversity. There's many ways to homedchool. Some families use different methods for different children
    Seeing my kids reach their milestones and goals. Being around my children a lot (I do need an hour a day when they're aren't around.)
    Not having to get up early and do the school morning rush (apart from the two days they girls go to co-op), or when my youngest has swimming at 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lileitak View Post
    While I get the appeal, I do think a lot of "un-schooling" can be achieved by smart parenting. By that I mean, summer camp, camping, gardening (& farming), hiking and just general exploring with kids. I agree that kids are over scheduled and over tested, but i trust the school system can do a better job than I can educating my kids.

    I think a lot of this thinking is romanticised reminiscing of the last few centuries when kids weren't always in school.

    However, I am often shocked at the grammar & punctuation used by homeschoolers. On this forum and the Internet in general.
    I agree with this.

    I was once told by a very wise woman. "Get an education, no one will ever be able to take it away from you and you can make a good living for you and your children". This was my gran, who lived through the war and worked her body into the ground. She only went to school until she was 11 and I know she would have loved to study further and not work so physically hard to the point of discomfort.

    I know she didn't mean "go out and learn from everyday life and pretend school doesn't exist".

    Why take away education, something society has worked so hard to try and give as many children to get the same start in life. A level playing field. It just seems unschooling will without a doubt set someone up to have to work 10 times harder to get to where a schooled person can start at.

    How do you know if unschooling works, what is the end result? It feels like leaving too much up to chance and to a degree, irresponsible in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candiceo View Post
    Hey homeschooling4 thanks for sharing your story and thoughts. I feel bad that because of my original question you're getting negative feedback. I hope you are ok.
    Thanks I'm ok
    And sorry your original post has been derailed.

    To answer your original post, I don't know any adult unschoolers personally, but I'm on a homeschooling forum as well as unschooling groups on FB and there's a few there. I know one says she's a piano teacher, one works with horses (I don't know what he does), one who is studying a beauty course. There's others but I can't remember..

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    I'm no expert of home schooling but I do know parents have to follow a curriculum. How does that fit with unschooling? Do you direct them to learn what is prescribed or ignore it and go with what you want?

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    Also, I get the concept of homeschooling/in schooling being child led, but what about topics that they don't know they are interested in or have a high aptitude for if they're not introduced to them? And how do specialist subjects such as chemistry and physics and specialist mathematics get taught when in conventional schools they often require someone with a tertiary background in those subjects to teach them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homeschooling4 View Post
    Thanks I'm ok
    And sorry your original post has been derailed.

    To answer your original post, I don't know any adult unschoolers personally, but I'm on a homeschooling forum as well as unschooling groups on FB and there's a few there. I know one says she's a piano teacher, one works with horses (I don't know what he does), one who is studying a beauty course. There's others but I can't remember..
    Ok well I'm glad your Ok. I don't mind that it's derailed, someone mentioned plebiscite so i may as well completely derail it and say - vote for marriage equality people! 😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homeschooling4 View Post
    Lmao. Sorry, but you really have no clue. School is not the only place to learn and socialise. It's actually the worst.
    Bulldust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskittyfantastico View Post
    I *think* because unschooling comes under the wide banner that is homeschooling.
    It's a bit crap because I know people who periodically homeschool and then their kids merge back into our school seemlessly and then I know others that...don't.
    Yeah I get that, but I want to know what the literal differences are between unschooling and just not sending kids to school, aside from a label that covers the bums of parents from a legal POV. What differentiates the parent who decided to use the term "unschool" for their kids so they don't get in legal strife from the parent who just doesn't send their kids to school but doesn't know about the concept of unschool so doesn't think to use it? What is the difference in the education these kids are getting? I'm kinda confusing myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moxy View Post
    Yeah I get that, but I want to know what the literal differences are between unschooling and just not sending kids to school, aside from a label that covers the bums of parents from a legal POV. What differentiates the parent who decided to use the term "unschool" for their kids so they don't get in legal strife from the parent who just doesn't send their kids to school but doesn't know about the concept of unschool so doesn't think to use it? What is the difference in the education these kids are getting? I'm kinda confusing myself.
    I actually think this is a really valid point. From everything I have read, and what I've read in this thread, the learning that happens for an unschooling family is just a normal weekend day off for us. I could not send my kids and get the same results. When there is no accountability and no set plan, what can happen is what I described at the beginning of these discussions - lazy parents who would rather the kids sleep in until lunch, save a packet on uniforms, have no school pick ups or need for bedtimes. Not saying all unschoolers are like this - but really, I'm like you, I just see it as giving the kids no formal education and have them hanging around home.

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