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    Default Lean PCOS and egg quality

    @Keiko2012, I'll copy below a budget that I stole from another thread as its someone's recent budget for a holiday and cycle in SA. We went for 3 weeks and lived it up really with nice hotels and restaurants on top of the cycle and I think it was about $20k all up.

    We had a bit of difficulty finding a donor, but only because our first preferred one fell through and we had to find another in a hurry. In reality there are lots to choose from and the process is really quite ******lined. We didn't get any money back from Medicare but I was able to claim the medical expenses on my tax return. You can do your scans in australia and just send them over to SA, but I did mine there as we were there anyway. I'm going to go back for a FET in January in the hope of a sibling for our little one and I'll do the scans here for that as I only want to be there for a short time and I want to make sure my lining is spot on before leaving. Generally, as a couple, you would go over for a fresh cycle first and then if you get some to freeze you could go back for frozen transfers. If you are using egg donor and sperm donor, or an embryo donation then I guess you could do it as a frozen transfer.
    @Projectbub, we plan to tell our DD how she was conceived. I spent a lot of time worrying that maybe I wouldn't love her the 'right' way or that she'd resent me etc. But, in the end, we went for it as for us it was our only option to have a family and I will have to deal with what comes...if it does. I've connected with other DE mums as I want her to know others who are donor conceived. All going to plan she will have a fully genetic sibling too. She is so loved and I hope only good will come from that. My family know and are very supportive. They honestly couldn't love her more and I don't think it even crosses their minds. Some of our friends know but I haven't told everyone as I feel that it's our Dd's info to share if/when she wants to. In SA, donors are anonymous but you get access to a lot of information about them, personality, interests, medical history, looks and also childhood photos.

    $ 6 ,670.00 CFC

    $ 150.00 drugs

    $ 460.00 embryoscope

    $ 450.00 freeze

    $ 3,683.00 flights

    $ 99.00 insurance

    $ 2,270.00 accom

    $ 535.00 safari

    $ 550.00 shark dive

    $ 907.00 car/garmin

    $ 1,550.00 spending

    $ 18,942.00 TOTAL

    ETA...looks like this budget doesn't include cost of egg donor agency...roughly $1600.
    Last edited by MrsErinR; 08-11-2015 at 19:15.

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    @Projectbub I couldn't read and run because my case was the same as you, always been lean 27yo, AF arrives between 31-35 days 2years off the pill and nothing, did Metformin still nothing had a lap found mild endo removed tried Clomid again last cycle fell preg but chemical pregnancy so began ivf.
    Collected large amounts of eggs between 19-29 had and each time great Fert rate then day three it all went pear shaped so by day 5 left with one or two blasts. Did 6 transfers in total at this clinic had two chemical pregnancies out of those 6.
    Admittedly we have immune issues as well but that's a different story probly not related to you but we bit the bullet and changed clinics to Genea found a fs I loved and she literally tweeked my stims meds like a fine art. We collected 12 I think and also did pgd to confirm our embryos were good, we tested 4 and three were completely normal, had one transferred and I'm currently 17weeks pregnant also with the help of immune drugs but the whole egg quality is what relates to you.
    I think it's a matter of finding a fs that knows there stuff and a really good clinic because for some reason our eggs are so sensitive best thing I ever did was take that chance and change clinics and Fs.

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    Just to add I do ovulate each month but my follicles don't grow big enough for mature egg, don't have pcos just PCO so only signs are the cysts of ovaries and eggs not being released when they are mature they always release immature

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    @miissalina thank you for jumping in, we really do seem to have the same issues and it makes me happy to know you got there in the end (congrats!!). May I ask which FS you see at Genea? I am also with Genea now seeing Dr Lok (after switching from my old Dr, who was also at Genea). When you went through IVF, and had large number of fertilised eggs, did they tell you they were immature? I'm wondering if thats what my issue is, maybe they aren't growing large enough as I also have no other symptoms at all, just the cysts on the ovaries. Just confused as the Drs always said most were mature when I got the call to say how many had fertilised, but my new Dr looked at my previous results and said they most weren't large enough to trigger. I hope he tries something different!! What did your Dr change in your successful cycle?

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    @Projectbub I changed to Genea and went with dr gee as she also specialised in immune issues, she looked over my other results and said they weren't triggered large enough, she mentioned that PCO produce alot of eggs and many fs will trigger with a few over 17 but that doesn't get us many in the end as all the others are immature. She didn't change my drugs as Such she was just very thorough with my BT and scans and increasing/decreasing dosage. Just before I triggered I was having daily BT she wanted to make sure it was spot on, she mentioned at a follow up appnt after epu that my LH was a little low and if we needed future cycles would add in another drug to help that and therefor help us get more embryos to day 4, I had 4 on day 5 all hatching and good enough to be pgd tested better than any previous cycles at my old clinic, I just found her amazingly thorough, it was a trek to the city to see her as she's in Kent street and I'm in western suburbs but I def made the right choice

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    @miissalina Thanks so much, I'm also in western suburbs but I travel to Liverpool instead, kinda on the way to work at least. My new Dr said he'd try to up my dose of gonal F on my next cycle on the first few days of stims, then decrease back down to what I was taking last few cycles to try give them a jump start at the beginning, hopefully that works. My old Dr also said my LH was a little low at the beginning of my stims, but AF arrived a few days ago, I tested the opk on day 1 & 2 just out of interest and a faint line showed up. Makes no sense to me. Anyway fingers crossed, thanks for your story, there is hope!!

    One last Q if you have time, I was taking 150 gonalF, how much were you taking?

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    @Projectbub sorry took me so long to reply finally found my treatment plan and she had me on 100 gonal f for 4days then dropped it to 87.5 for the remainder, but she went off my bt with how to dose so yours will probly vary slightly.
    I had two cancelled cycles out of my 4 successful epu for 6 in total and that's because the doses were to high and the second one was too low but that was with diff fs, girls with pco are so touchy it's hard finding the right balance

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    Hi ladies I know this is an old thread and I remember reading it back in 2015 and I see some familiar names in here that went onto get bfp which is great news. Judt wondering if any of you did anything to improve the egg quality with lean pcos. I have now done 6 ivf cycles and seem to get lots of eggs at retrieval, our embryo development is always good until day 3/4 and then our embies all slow down and we are usually very lucky if we get any blasts on day 6. This last cycle all we had was 2 morulas at day 6 which we transferred but we dont have much chance with. Donor eggs and sperm have been mentioned and we are feeling pretty lost at the moment. I am positive its an egg quality issue due to my pcos. Has anyone any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyside View Post
    Hi ladies I know this is an old thread and I remember reading it back in 2015 and I see some familiar names in here that went onto get bfp which is great news. Judt wondering if any of you did anything to improve the egg quality with lean pcos. I have now done 6 ivf cycles and seem to get lots of eggs at retrieval, our embryo development is always good until day 3/4 and then our embies all slow down and we are usually very lucky if we get any blasts on day 6. This last cycle all we had was 2 morulas at day 6 which we transferred but we dont have much chance with. Donor eggs and sperm have been mentioned and we are feeling pretty lost at the moment. I am positive its an egg quality issue due to my pcos. Has anyone any ideas?
    Oh @Heyside! I am absolutely shattered to read you are still going through this battle! I am so heartbroken for you that it has still not worked. I can't give you much advice as I think ours was a complete fluke. The only things i added in was HGH and LH and started royal jelly and maca beforehand. I also switched acupuncture clinics. My egg pick up I only had 10 and the whole cycle looked rather crappy. With the same issues as always- embryo fragmentation. So I can't really say it made a difference. I also had a lap 3 months beforehand where they lasered my ovaries. Who knows what made the difference in the end or if it did. I think we just got utterly lucky with a true miracle. Wazza hasn't given you any advice or recommendations?

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    There so lots of things that help egg quality! Where are u? Who is your FS?

    Sometimes embies don't like the culture they are grown in and Jess to be transferred at day 3- is this an option?


 

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