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    Default *trigger warning* Miranda Devine blaming poor women having kids for DV

    This makes my blood boil. What a vile, dangerous and irresponsible stance.
    http://www.mamamia.com.au/news/miran...women-article/
    Note that the link to her column is set up so that it doesn't increase traffic to said nonsense.

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    I'm not clicking the link but I've seen enough on facebook to see what she said and I'm absolutely disgusted. Though I have never really liked MD, she is a callous and cold hearted so and so IMO!

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    The worrying thing is the number of others who share her view. There is a fundamental lack of understanding around the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    The worrying thing is the number of others who share her view. There is a fundamental lack of understanding around the issue.
    I thought the whole 'what about DV towards men' thing was bad enough in not understanding the fundamentals of the issue. This is just victim blaming at its worst.

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    I just read her column & in some ways I understand what she's getting at as people in those communities or with those types of issues are at most risk of experiencing DV.

    Most people understand that on the whole, DV doesn't discriminate but I do agree that certain people are more at risk.

    Yes...her comments about women having children to multiple fathers/feckless men is a bit offensive I agree.

    Overall though, I have to say I do agree with some of the points she's making. Her delivery needs some work but then again, she's entitled to her opinion like anyone else.

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    Hmmm, I'm a bit lost for words after reading her views.

    Back to that old trick of victim blaming. Very disappointing and narrow minded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    The worrying thing is the number of others who share her view. There is a fundamental lack of understanding around the issue.
    Both lack of understanding and not caring to understand.

    The comments on news articles of another woman dying from domestic violence make me cry and rage at once. From the 'what about men' comments to 'it's not as bad as the media is making it out to be' - I do not get it.

    I am glad media are reporting domestic violence and calling it out. I am glad the government is doing SOMETHING. But the statistics I read of 1/4 of men think its ok to slap a drunk woman etc scare me. How is it ok to hit anyone? Hurt anyone? Abuse anyone?

    And to do it to your 'loved ones' who are vulnerable. Who are beaten down. Have nowhere to go. And people either try and tell them it is 'not as bad as you make out' or 'what did YOU do to make him act that way' - I have no words.

    And to have a WOMAN in the media spouting this rubbish - she is now giving men 'proof' that what they are doing is ok because it is the woman's fault.

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    My god 😳 *unsuitable women*

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyBovine View Post
    I can't help but wonder if the stats are skewed though? ie are women in higher socioeconomic groups more likely to stay despite abuse and not report?

    I have no stats to back it up, purely basing my comment on my own experience - I was in a DV relationship, exdh has a high income, being scared of poverty was one of many factors that made me stay longer than I should of. In the end, I just didn't care, I wanted out more than anything. However there was a period of time (ie years), when I was looking at the centrelink website, adding in CSA estimates and my measly income wondering how on earth I would be able to afford housing, let alone feeding my kids and paying bills.
    I've been in a DV relationship too in my early to mid 20's. He/we weren't wealthy...blue collar workers.

    Anyhoo...yes...I can understand what you're saying & quite possibly DV isn't being reported at all or partners staying out of fear of poverty etc...I agree Luv that the stats prob aren't a true reflection overall but they can only go with what they have I guess??

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    I read it again. Calmly. And nope. I'm sorry but any points she may have were just lost in the disrespect shown for those trying to help those affected by domestic violence.

    Interestingly I found this about QLD. And it seems like it is not largely an indigenous issue like she suggested from her stats.

    https://www.dvconnect.org/education-...ess-campaigns/

    I am no expert but I still do not think the right way to go about it is blaming women and saying its just that men do it due to mental illness/drugs/alcohol etc.

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