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    Default Almost infertile male

    Hello forum
    Tonight I received the news that I'm almost infertile. Apparently I have approx 5 swimmers where there is supposed to be thousands!
    I admit, I'm 36 and not as fit as I used to be last year(15km runs/gym/tough mudder). I smoke, socially drink and don't mind a bit of junk food. It's the beginning of our journey in conceiving so our lifestyle hasn't been amended.
    My GP told me that my sperm count is so low that not even lifestyle will help.
    Is this true?
    Where do we go from here?
    Will supplements help?
    Is ivf or icsi our only chance?

    Please help!!!!!

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    Hi Daniel, good on you for reaching out there is a lot of support on here. The fact that you have some swimmers instead of mine is still a good thing and ICSI could be very successful, my DS1 is an ICSI bubba. Perhaps check out some of the Azoospermia threads and post in there to introduce yourself.

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    ...sorry I got cut off by a hungry baby. I wanted to also say take care of yourself I know it's a big shock getting news about your fertility not being what you thought it would be.

    My husband has antisperm antibodies and it was a big shock for him to find out. Male fertility issues are actually really common they just don't get spoken about. If your clinic can connect you with a counsellor I urge you to go along, it can really help.

    And let the fertility specialists take care of the science, all is not lost!

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    Thanks scubagal!
    We're very disheartened and disappointed but I'm an optimist and hope I can go down the supplement and lifestyle change path before we look into icsi.
    It's fantastic that you've been successful! Congratulations!

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    Quote Originally Posted by daniel7901 View Post
    Thanks scubagal!
    We're very disheartened and disappointed but I'm an optimist and hope I can go down the supplement and lifestyle change path before we look into icsi.
    It's fantastic that you've been successful! Congratulations!
    Look it's tough news to hear, when my husband and I found out we could never conceive without IVF we were devastated, many beers were had while we processed it. But then we came to terms with it and just got on with following out fertility specialists plan.

    Every hurdle seems hard till you get to the next one, the next thing that will be scary will be all the needles and procedures for your wife but it's not as hard or scary as it seems.

    IVF science is pretty amazing these days. You'll get to know a whole community of support on here who can guide you along the way

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    Good on you Daniel for jumping on here. I'm a total newbie on here but I know it's harder for guys to look for help.

    My hubby is a carrier of the CF gene and has absent vasa (he doesn't have the little tube that the sperm get out) so ICSI is our only option. I remember how shocking it was to get that news that we could never naturally get pregnant.

    If there is the option of lifestyle change might help then I really hope that works out for you but if it doesn't, don't feel that hope is lost. ICSI and the fertility specialists can do so much now. We got pregnant with our first cycle, unfortunately lost due to thyroid complications on my end but just starting again now.

    Good luck with it all.

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    Thank you both very much... Knowing that we're not alone in this is comforting.
    We still feel lost in all of this. I guess, like you, we'll find our way once we've had time to process.

    Keep the advice coming people!!!!

    I'd like to know more about the effect a lifestyle/supplements may have on me, if any?

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    Hi Daniel,
    Like babybeanie my husband is a cystic fibrosis carrier.
    That first sperm sample where the results of zero sperm were devastating. We retrieve sperm via a needle biopsy directly from the testicle and ICSI to fertilise the eggs.
    I am so sorry that your results were not what you expected. You are not alone, male fertility issues are quite common. You guys may need some ivf assistance but it is amazing what ivf can achieve. The positive is there are sperm.
    Definitely explore options, talk to the counsellor - they are actually extremely good.
    And no matter what - talk to your partner. It doesn't matter how small or big it is, let her know your feelings and fears, this journey has made my husband and I so much stronger than we ever were and much better communicators.
    Start on menevit if you haven't already, but it is likely you may only improve quality not quantity.
    Good luck.

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    Totally agree with sunny79, keep the lines of communication open between you and your partner. This is one of those situations that can sometimes feel unbearable, we did IVF for the first time 7 years ago but the day we got my husbands results is still a hard thing to forget. If you do have to go down the ICSI path you're going to be challenged regularly but when you've got each other to lean on it makes the world of difference.

    Give yourself some time to grieve for what you've lost - the chance to have children naturally. We didn't take that time and looking back I think it was something we didn't take the time to process, but should have. My biggest concern was for hubby because I could only imagine how hard it must have been for him to get that news of 0 sperm in his samples

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    @daniel7901: it takes time to digest the news. I am one of the unfortunate ladies whose DH has non-obstructive azoospermia. Anyway, the fact that they found few swimmers is good news. I know it might sound weird for me to say that because it is relatively speaking to people dealing with non obstructive azoospermia like ours. It sounds like lifestyle change might be all you need. I remember there was a guy on the forum also mentioning low count and then zero count. Few months later his count went back up a little despite low.

    DH was also very disappointed that we had to go down the IVF ICSI path but we didn't even given good chances for that with his sperms.

    My suggestion is to take menevit, be healthy and active. See if anything improve 3 months down the track. There is no point to do another sample so soon. It takes 3 months to produce mature sperms. If things don't improve, you need to find out why. Then, a lot of us at the azoospermia thread can help. At the moment, don't think about the worst just yet.

    All the best.


 

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