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    I'm leaning towards no. I think it provides a false sense of security. Recreational drugs are not safe, it's Russian roulette, regardless of how 'well made' the drug is. How long will it take for drug manufacturers to find ways to beat the test? They'll be quicker than the company making the tests, that's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisecoast View Post
    people will take the substance regardless.
    Not necessarily. I was such a nerd that there's no way in heck I would take an illegal drug - even back in my naive and stupid teenage years. Make it legal and I probably would have. Infact many a stupid thing was done with alcohol back when I was young. I don't I would have done half the stuff if alcohol was illegal. Being legal means it's okay... Mkay...

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisecoast View Post
    yes I do support it. people will take the substance regardless, why not provide a level of assurance that it's at least pure/what they're expecting it to be. someone might still die from an overdose of the pure drug but at least they know it's not laced with rat poison.

    as a former attendee of these kinds of events and frequent drug taker/pill popper, I can only thank my lucky stars none of us ended up OD-ing or dead. did the risk put us off taking them? no. but test kits would've made it a bit safer.
    Or would the tests have given you more justification for your actions?

    I can see both sides of the argument, but I'm just not convinced.

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    what do you mean "beat the test"?

    drug manufacturers manufacture drugs to be sold. nobody will buy drugs if they're rubbish. all manufactured drugs would contain some of the pure drug, it's how cut down it is and what it's cut with that's the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cue View Post
    Or would the tests have given you more justification for your actions?

    I can see both sides of the argument, but I'm just not convinced.
    I took the drugs regardless, the test (had it been available 15 years ago) is by the by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisecoast View Post
    what do you mean "beat the test"?

    drug manufacturers manufacture drugs to be sold. nobody will buy drugs if they're rubbish. all manufactured drugs would contain some of the pure drug, it's how cut down it is and what it's cut with that's the issue.
    If there is a way for the drug to appear more pure than it is, they will find it (if the tests were to become widely used, there would be incentive to do so). There could still be something nasty in it even if the drug seems good to users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Not necessarily. I was such a nerd that there's no way in heck I would take an illegal drug - even back in my naive and stupid teenage years. Make it legal and I probably would have. Infact many a stupid thing was done with alcohol back when I was young. I don't I would have done half the stuff if alcohol was illegal. Being legal means it's okay... Mkay...
    So you didn't drink before you were 18?!

    To the people answering no, is it more to the mandatory part or just the idea of kits in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    So you didn't drink before you were 18?!

    To the people answering no, is it more to the mandatory part or just the idea of kits in the first place?
    All of it. Drugs are a serious serious issue in our society. Anything that kind of gives the message that it's ok to take if you just test it first - just no. No no no.

    If someone wants to take drugs then s/he will, regardless of how pure it is or whether test kits are available. Instead what i think it would do is encourage some people over the line that perhaps otherwise wouldn't have tried it.

    Just because it's "pure" doesn't necessarily make it any less harmful. You can still OD, react badly to the drug etc and still end up harmed or dead.

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    I understand where you are coming from.

    That link I posted says that the majority of users that were asked stated that they wouldn't take the drug if testing revealed that the drug wasn't what they thought/was insufficiently pure etc., and that they would warn other people, so I'm not sure about that argument.

    The majority also stated that they would use testing gear if it was available.

    Of course if doesn't guarantee that people will make good choices, but I tend to be in the 'if it saves a life it can't be so bad' camp.

    I hadn't thought about it giving people a reason to take drugs who normally wouldn't. I'd be interested to know how accurate that is. One reason I never touched pills was because I was terrified of ODing, and I'm not sure that testing kits would allay that fear...

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