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    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    This is quite interesting:

    http://theconversation.com/six-reaso...ty-drugs-34073

    I'm undecided myself but leaning towards the yes - at least to the strongly encourage with no repercussions part.

    To me it's kind of like when pubs started giving free soft drink to desi drivers or clubs (in my day they are called recovery? The ones that are open from like 5am - 11am) giving out free bottled water - a gesture to try and support people in having the safest night out possible.

    I don't really buy that it would encourage drug use, and I think the stats around improving quality in the black market overall etc are rather compelling.
    Yeah I think I'm with you in that drug use is a given in our society, and as a society we should try and make it as safe as possible - a bit like selling fit packs which we used to do when I worked at a chemist twenty years ago, not sure what they're called now but they were clean needles and very cheap.
    I agree that I don't think it encourages drug use. Drug use is never "safe" you never know what's going to happen but I think you can make it "safer".

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    Absolutely, but I think a lot of illegal drugs should be legal, so am definitely in the "harm minimisation" camp.

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    Default Would you support...

    This is a hard one.

    I have to go with a reluctant yes, I have older children, if they were going to take drugs I would rather they survived the experience. It's a very reluctant yes though.
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    No

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    Yes I definitely support harm reduction strategies like this. I worked in the alcohol and other drug sector for many years and I'm a very strong advocate of harm reduction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingermillie View Post
    Yes I definitely support harm reduction strategies like this. I worked in the alcohol and other drug sector for many years and I'm a very strong advocate of harm reduction.
    So is this something that can maybe described as the next step after supervised injecting rooms (do they still have this in Sydney btw?)

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    Yes, it would be a good public health policy. Cheap and efficient.

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    Oohh tough one. I can see the benefit of trying to help stop people taking dirty/contaminated drugs. However, it is not reducing the problem, just a consequence. What happens if a person gets a testing kit which ok's the drug, person has an unexpected reaction (physical or mental) & either hurts/kills someone or themselves? It could be argued that the provider of the test is liable (morally & legally) because they contributed to the drug being taken.

    I'm leaning more towards having more resources put into catching those taking or dealing/manufacturing drugs & diverting them into appropriate areas. That is, addiction help for the average user & criminal proceedings for dealers. I know it can be a whole lot more complex than that, but that should be the base of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzys Dragon View Post
    What happens if a person gets a testing kit which ok's the drug, person has an unexpected reaction (physical or mental) & either hurts/kills someone or themselves? It could be argued that the provider of the test is liable (morally & legally) because they contributed to the drug being taken.



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    Harm minimisation doesn't work like that, just so you know

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    yes I do support it. people will take the substance regardless, why not provide a level of assurance that it's at least pure/what they're expecting it to be. someone might still die from an overdose of the pure drug but at least they know it's not laced with rat poison.

    as a former attendee of these kinds of events and frequent drug taker/pill popper, I can only thank my lucky stars none of us ended up OD-ing or dead. did the risk put us off taking them? no. but test kits would've made it a bit safer.

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