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    Default **trigger warning** Recent refugee incidents in Europe

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    Of course its easy for Abbott to say turn back the boats. Sitting in his nice little cushy life and working out how to spend his pay packet must b tough. Selfish git. Makes me so angry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    Also, I know you think I'm a bleeding heart lefty softie loony.
    You're a softy but I mean that in the best possible way

    I think we're all equally as distressed over Aylan's death. I think of this there is unity on the hub.

    Xx

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    As women, mothers, children, sisters, aunties, grandparents etc, we have a collective power to send a very strong message to Tony Abbot. We can easily vote him out standing United.

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    Obviously we need to be doing more with Syria as whatever we are doing isn't enough. Whether that's upping our military involvement I'm not sure, I'm not going to pretend I know even the tip of the iceberg of what's going on over there and all the different dynamics between countries/allies/rebels/Isis and what entering/starting a war would do. But we obviously need to be doing more than we are and what that is will probably mean an increase in refugees before any real change is made and that country is safe again. Which means, in the meantime, every country needs to be willing to up their aid and their intake in this humanitarian crisis.

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    The refugee crisis from Syria is heartbreaking. Not just the one little drowned boy,but the thousands of tents lined up in rows in the refugee camps. We in Australia need to take more refugees. Many, many more. Do I think boats are the best way to do that? Honestly? No I dont. I think people smugglers earn a lot of money off of desperate refugees &put them in situations where little children drown. I think the process in refugee camps needs to be a lot more accessible to refugees. It needs to be quicker,and safer, which it could be if we & other countries took more refugees.

    The thing is,it's very expensive to take refugees. We cant dump them in the middle of sydney with the clothes on their back. They need housing &medical care. Means of transport. Conselling services. Financial support/centrelink. English classes. Assistance in being able to get a job. Refugees bring so much benefit to our country- but it isnt cheap. I am willing to pay more for my health care,to pay for the health care of refugees. Im willing to pay more tax,or cuts to my FTB, to pay for centrelink payments for refugees. Im willing to pay the price we need,to save human lives. I am happy to share the wealth we so freely have in australia. But I think many australians are not willing to do so. We take more refugees, pay more to see the doctor,& lose some FTB, &you bet Aussies will whinge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheeeeesecake View Post
    The refugee crisis from Syria is heartbreaking. Not just the one little drowned boy,but the thousands of tents lined up in rows in the refugee camps. We in Australia need to take more refugees. Many, many more. Do I think boats are the best way to do that? Honestly? No I dont. I think people smugglers earn a lot of money off of desperate refugees &put them in situations where little children drown. I think the process in refugee camps needs to be a lot more accessible to refugees. It needs to be quicker,and safer, which it could be if we & other countries took more refugees.

    The thing is,it's very expensive to take refugees. We cant dump them in the middle of sydney with the clothes on their back. They need housing &medical care. Means of transport. Conselling services. Financial support/centrelink. English classes. Assistance in being able to get a job. Refugees bring so much benefit to our country- but it isnt cheap. I am willing to pay more for my health care,to pay for the health care of refugees. Im willing to pay more tax,or cuts to my FTB, to pay for centrelink payments for refugees. Im willing to pay the price we need,to save human lives. I am happy to share the wealth we so freely have in australia. But I think many australians are not willing to do so. We take more refugees, pay more to see the doctor,& lose some FTB, &you bet Aussies will whinge.
    In regards to the cost, perhaps if we helped people come to Australia, instead of making it almost impossible, they could use the money they pay people smugglers to at least start to set up their lives here. It wouldn't cover everything, not even close, but it's a start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheeeeesecake View Post
    The refugee crisis from Syria is heartbreaking. Not just the one little drowned boy,but the thousands of tents lined up in rows in the refugee camps. We in Australia need to take more refugees. Many, many more. Do I think boats are the best way to do that? Honestly? No I dont. I think people smugglers earn a lot of money off of desperate refugees &put them in situations where little children drown. I think the process in refugee camps needs to be a lot more accessible to refugees. It needs to be quicker,and safer, which it could be if we & other countries took more refugees.

    The thing is,it's very expensive to take refugees. We cant dump them in the middle of sydney with the clothes on their back. They need housing &medical care. Means of transport. Conselling services. Financial support/centrelink. English classes. Assistance in being able to get a job. Refugees bring so much benefit to our country- but it isnt cheap. I am willing to pay more for my health care,to pay for the health care of refugees. Im willing to pay more tax,or cuts to my FTB, to pay for centrelink payments for refugees. Im willing to pay the price we need,to save human lives. I am happy to share the wealth we so freely have in australia. But I think many australians are not willing to do so. We take more refugees, pay more to see the doctor,& lose some FTB, &you bet Aussies will whinge.
    It would be much cheaper to do what you say than what the current practice is. Sending them to Nauru and Manus Island has cost billions. So has towing the boats backs.

    Whilst I think people would complain about losing out on money as you said, I believe the reason is simply the fact that people don't like Muslims and they don't want them living here. Plus there's a lot of demonising of asylum seekers with myths and untruths.

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    Germany has pledged to take 1mill this year.

    Australia has pledged to take 18000 by 2018. What the actual f$&&?!?! The crisis has been happening since 2011 and has reached epic proportions now.

    We are a global joke. Our lack of humanity is making headlines across the world.

    Instead we spend billions on inhumane detention centres and off shore processing to appease who knows?!? We have the capacity, we have the means. Our government is choosing not to. It's shameful.

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