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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I go away for a bit and come back to see KG has been asked to leave a thread. From the outsider perspective it appears some may have been baiting in their initial responses to KG (the need for politeness appears to only go one way -in favor of the majority - sometimes on the hub) which inflamed the situation.

    Just remember a little bit of non biatchy education can go a long way. I remember a similar thread a few years ago and I had some similar concerns to KG. It got pretty feisty however one or two members took the time to respectfully tell personal stories. I can't remember who those members were
    I wasn't going to return to this topic, but I'll try to address this. In people's defence, the members of this forum have done that Vic, for years. Attempted to educate, to politely challenge. That only works when the person is open to new ideas and change. Even in this thread I tried to place this in a personal context (to create empathy) that what if this was happening in Australia, would you not want someone to save your kids? .... *crickets*

    I'm one who likes to debate. As a long term SAHM it keeps the cobwebs out of my brain lol but one thing that drives me bonkers on here is people that jump in with deliberately provocative comments then whine when people disagree with them. "I'm entitled to my opinion!!". Yep and so are the people disagreeing with you (a general you).

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    [QUOTE!]I'm one who likes to debate. As a long term SAHM it keeps the cobwebs out of my brain lol but one thing that drives me bonkers on here is people that jump in with deliberately provocative comments then whine when people disagree with them. "I'm entitled to my opinion!!". Yep and so are the people disagreeing with you (a general you).[/QUOTE]

    I think the difference is that on the hub the second you have that differing opinion a lynch mob materializes and all of a sudden its 10 against 1. Everyones entitled to their opinion yes but to rebut by ostrasizing the person, ridiculing them for a spelling mistake then asking them to leave doesn't sit right with me. It reminds me of *****y high school girls bullying eachother and i see it a lot with KG. People see her username and get their backs up straight away.

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    Default **trigger warning** Recent refugee incidents in Europe

    But why is it a "lynch mob" just because the majority of people on a particular thread don't agree? As a long time member who has been in the minority and majority on many threads I think that characterisation is quite unhelpful as it almost guarantees the end of the debate as no matter what anyone now says they are part of that lynch mob.

    As for kg (and I really don't like speaking of members in the abstract) I think a lot of compassion and empathy has been shown to her over the years but it falls on deaf ears. I recall one thread about home ownership in Australia where so many members told heart wrenching stories of how hard it was for them to buy a home but she refused to listen. It was depressing.

    Empathy has to cut both ways.

    Pretty sure this thread will be shut down so this is the last I'll say on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    But why is it a "lynch mob" just because the majority of people on a particular thread don't agree?
    Because people get nasty Sonja. There is a difference between saying 'i disagree with you because xyz but thats ok' and ganging up on someone to force them out and posting memes to ridicule them. Two wrongs dont make a right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heplusme View Post
    Because people get nasty Sonja. There is a difference between saying 'i disagree with you because xyz but thats ok' and ganging up on someone to force them out and posting memes to ridicule them. Two wrongs dont make a right.
    Maybe in this particular case (I stopped reading this thread 2 days ago as soon as I saw kg post as I knew how I'd feel) but to say it applies generally is unfair and I don't agree.

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    Back on topic everyone.... To anyone who thinks we shouldn't help these people.

    Please watch this and if you don't get a shiver down your spine or an almost tear in your eye watching this I'll be surprised.

    Very powerful stuff.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buA3tsGnp2s

    Goes to show what a positive impact refugees can make in our community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heplusme View Post
    [QUOTE!]I'm one who likes to debate. As a long term SAHM it keeps the cobwebs out of my brain lol but one thing that drives me bonkers on here is people that jump in with deliberately provocative comments then whine when people disagree with them. "I'm entitled to my opinion!!". Yep and so are the people disagreeing with you (a general you).
    I think the difference is that on the hub the second you have that differing opinion a lynch mob materializes and all of a sudden its 10 against 1. Everyones entitled to their opinion yes but to rebut by ostrasizing the person, ridiculing them for a spelling mistake then asking them to leave doesn't sit right with me. It reminds me of *****y high school girls bullying eachother and i see it a lot with KG. People see her username and get their backs up straight away.[/QUOTE]

    Would you like to know how it appears to outsiders who have something to say, but don't want to be clobbered for their views? I read more than I post because I find these debates typically one sided, usually geared towards some type of socialist leftist mentality. And then the slow clobbering starts when someone that does not fit this mindset comes on and offers their POV.

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    I'm not going to get further drawn into the YAAB stuff except to say if you can't handle the backlash of racist/homophobic/offensive comments stop saying them. But I find it kind of sad that any care for other people is considered 'left wing' and 'socialist' like it's a negative thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    I'm not going to get further drawn into the YAAB stuff except to say if you can't handle the backlash of racist/homophobic/offensive comments stop saying them. But I find it kind of sad that any care for other people is considered 'left wing' and 'socialist' like it's a negative thing.
    I didn't SAY anything of the sort, only that those with differing views from Socialist/left wing are made to feel like there is something wrong with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SixtiesChild View Post
    I didn't SAY anything of the sort, only that those with differing views from Socialist/left wing are made to feel like there is something wrong with them.
    With some peoples opinions it's hard not to think there is something wrong with them.


 

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