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    Quote Originally Posted by Renesme View Post
    Infant school is usually 5 - 7 year olds!! Hardly what I'd call a toddler.
    OK. I assumed it was equivalent to WA schools kindy and pre-primary. Which could be 3(which was the age dd1 started kindy)-5yo depending on what year they were born.

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    Reading between the lines, I wonder if this was a school where they felt parents weren't always supporting their behaviour management (so challenging school consequences), or else parents felt expectations were unclear, so they have made a major effort to be extremely explicit and transparent.

    I expect with the age group that most teachers would be tempted to give a friendly warning before handing out a slip, and I think three slips before consequences is extremely generous.

    I don't believe it is a case of kids not being allowed to do anything - a lot of this would/should go hand in hand with explicit classroom education about social skills and appropriate behaviour.

    Our school is far stricter than this, but our littlies don't get time outs at all unless violence is involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamtam View Post

    Schools should be more explicit with expectations I think. There's no room for misunderstandings then.
    I agree with this. It's hard to 'tell someone off' for breaking a rule that has never been specified. If the rules are well known to students and parents, it makes it more consistent throughout the school

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    Reading between the lines, I wonder if this was a school where they felt parents weren't always supporting their behaviour management (so challenging school consequences), or else parents felt expectations were unclear, so they have made a major effort to be extremely explicit and transparent.

    I expect with the age group that most teachers would be tempted to give a friendly warning before handing out a slip, and I think three slips before consequences is extremely generous.

    I don't believe it is a case of kids not being allowed to do anything - a lot of this would/should go hand in hand with explicit classroom education about social skills and appropriate behaviour.

    Our school is far stricter than this, but our littlies don't get time outs at all unless violence is involved.
    I agree with this. It can seem very detailed. As long as there are friendly reminders/warnings before the slip is handed out then it's mostly fair enough with the exception of one or 2 things. As long as all kids are treated equally.

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    I would expect my 5 year old to follow these rules. As for not interfering in others disputes maybe get some clarification on that one. Maybe it means tell a teacher instead of taking matters into your own hands. 5-7 year olds may not have great conflict resolution skills.
    DS school is pretty strict and I'm glad for it. I expect DS to be disciplined when he does the wrong thing, within reason. The kids know the rules they get warned twice and on third go it's detention. No issue with that.

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    I think this is great to be honest.
    It's clear. The consequences are clear. It's not a "do it once and you're in detention". It gives chances.
    Op I'm unclear what the issue is?
    Is it that the school is being too strict which is how I read your first post. Or is the issue they're inconsistent with how this list is applied which is how I read your second.

    Inconsistency is going to make a list like this confusing for kids.

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    I don't like it.

    I disagree with the overall punitive approach the school is taking to managing student behaviour.

    These behaviours are clearly not ok but giving kids "slips" and dishing out detention is not an approach I personally subscribe to get the best out of people - it's about compliance not development.

    ETA: This is not to say I don't believe in consequences - I do, just not in this kind of one size fits all kind of a way.

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    The issue is that it is inconsistent and I have asked for help with my son on numerous occasions from not only the teacher but also the school counsellor to then be fobbed off, told my son is fine then he's constantly issued green slips. The teacher tells me she can tell he is anxious and is acting up for attention and is never the instigator . She also agreed he needs to see the counsellor. My son is no angel by any means but he's also not coping and I'm at a loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyla View Post
    I don't like it.

    I disagree with the overall punitive approach the school is taking to managing student behaviour.

    These behaviours are clearly not ok but giving kids "slips" and dishing out detention is not an approach I personally subscribe to get the best out of people - it's about compliance not development.

    ETA: This is not to say I don't believe in consequences - I do, just not in this kind of one size fits all kind of a way.
    This is how I feel

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    Quote Originally Posted by musicalmummy View Post
    The issue is that it is inconsistent and I have asked for help with my son on numerous occasions from not only the teacher but also the school counsellor to then be fobbed off, told my son is fine then he's constantly issued green slips. The teacher tells me she can tell he is anxious and is acting up for attention and is never the instigator . She also agreed he needs to see the counsellor. My son is no angel by any means but he's also not coping and I'm at a loss.
    This is exactly why I dont' like these kind of "discipline programs"


 

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