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    This is the thing, we actually don't even know if the suicides where the cheaters or the spouses, the new agencies just say 'linked to the hack.'

    I'm not saying the hack is completely responsible for the suicides, as somone who has depression I completely understand that there's more to suicide. But I'm sorry, the hack could very well have been a trigger and I think it is safe to say that if the hack hadn't happened these people *probably* would not have committed suicide this week, whether they had suicidal thoughts before or after is another issue. Bottom line, they would probably be alive right now and that is all that matters.

    I have a huge issue with anybody ever insinuating somebody deserved to feel so bad that they take their own life. 33 MILLION private details were released. You are never going to convince me that all or any of these people were such awful people that they deserved their lives (and their family's) to be completely ruined.

    It's not even that what the hackers did was illegal, it's that they took the control away from the people who deserved it and decided what the consequences should be for them. It wasn't their job to play God with so many other's lives.
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    I will say, in regards to people losing their jobs. Pretty much every corporation I've worked for has had a strict IT policy. If you're going to sign up to a site like Ashley Madison using your work email and access the site on your work computer, thus breaking their IT policy, then I don't have a massive amount of sympathy for you. They could just as easily have been found out through regular IT channels anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apple iPhart6 View Post
    I will say, in regards to people losing their jobs. Pretty much every corporation I've worked for has had a strict IT policy. If you're going to sign up to a site like Ashley Madison using your work email and access the site on your work computer, thus breaking their IT policy, then I don't have a massive amount of sympathy for you. They could just as easily have been found out through regular IT channels anyway.
    I get that. But you're employer finding out through IT channels and confronting or firing you is still remaining much more private than your details being released world wide. I also highly doubt your employer would contact your spouse, it would be left up to you to deal with the ramifications for getting fired because of this.

    A few months ago the head of DH's old school was fired because he was caught watching p.rn in his office. Obviously he broke some rules regarding what was expected of him and he should deal with those ramifications. But then the local paper made it front page news, seriously all the town was talking about while we were visiting. He had a wife and kids, kids that went to that school. Did he and his family deserve that? No children were in danger, it was adult p.rn. Obviously a huge error in judgement and a mistake that probably should have cost him his job, but beyond that? Not really anybody's business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyGolightly81 View Post
    I get that. But you're employer finding out through IT channels and confronting or firing you is still remaining much more private than your details being released world wide. I also highly doubt your employer would contact your spouse, it would be left up to you to deal with the ramifications for getting fired because of this.

    A few months ago the head of DH's old school was fired because he was caught watching p.rn in his office. Obviously he broke some rules regarding what was expected of him and he should deal with those ramifications. But then the local paper made it front page news, seriously all the town was talking about while we were visiting. He had a wife and kids, kids that went to that school. Did he and his family deserve that? No children were in danger, it was adult p.rn. Obviously a huge error in judgement and a mistake that probably should have cost him his job, but beyond that? Not really anybody's business.
    I dunno.... You've got to balance up the needs of the family with the needs of everyone else. I sort of think the fact that a sexual deviant was running the school (if you're watching porn 'at school' that's what you are) is newsworthy enough that other parents should know about it. If you have such poor judgement that you're watching porn at school then what other bad calls were you making (sexual nature or not) that could have affected the students?

    It unfortunate for his kids though - I couldn't see any option for them other than moving and changing schools regardless of whether the newspaper got hold of the story. And their dad should bare the full brunt of responsibility for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I dunno.... You've got to balance up the needs of the family with the needs of everyone else. I sort of think the fact that a sexual deviant was running the school (if you're watching porn 'at school' that's what you are) is newsworthy enough that other parents should know about it. If you have such poor judgement that you're watching porn at school then what other bad calls were you making (sexual nature or not) that could have affected the students?

    It unfortunate for his kids though - I couldn't see any option for them other than moving and changing schools regardless of whether the newspaper got hold of the story. And their dad should bare the full brunt of responsibility for that.
    I think it was a horrible judgement call but I'm not going to jump to he's dangerous and a sexual deviant because he watched p.orn. It wasn't something that needed to be front page of the newspaper. Why do people who have nothing to do with the school need to know about it? The school made a point to say there was never a time where children were at risk of anything. It's a small city desperate for some juice, that's the only reason it was front page news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyGolightly81 View Post
    I think it was a horrible judgement call but I'm not going to jump to he's dangerous and a sexual deviant because he watched p.orn. It wasn't something that needed to be front page of the newspaper. Why do people who have nothing to do with the school need to know about it? The school made a point to say there was never a time where children were at risk of anything. It's a small city desperate for some juice, that's the only reason it was front page news.
    Watching porn doesn't make you a sexual deviant. Watching it AT the school you are working at does - it's a big red flag that not all is right with your mental health and decision making. If it's the same case I am thinking of the principal was caught by a student during the middle of the school day. I don't know how the school can say the kids were never at risk of anything - they are looking at the situation with a rather narrow pair of cover-their-own-backside glasses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Watching porn doesn't make you a sexual deviant. Watching it AT the school you are working at does - it's a big red flag that not all is right with your mental health and decision making. I don't know how the school can say the kids were never at risk of anything - they are looking at the situation with a rather narrow pair of cover-their-own-backside glasses.
    We'll just have to agree to disagree. There's no other evidence to show it was anything other than stupid mistake. Fairly certain it was his laptop, closed office, after hours. Somebody saw the screen through a window. From what I know he had been doing a good job at the school. I guess it's like the teacher thread before, people make mistakes, doesn't mean they're bad people and deserve their lives ruined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyGolightly81 View Post
    We'll just have to agree to disagree. There's no other evidence to show it was anything other than stupid mistake. Fairly certain it was his personal laptop, closed office, after hours. Somebody saw the screen through a window. From what I know he had been doing a good job at the school. I guess it's like the teacher thread before, people make mistakes, doesn't mean they're bad people and deserve their lives ruined.
    If someone saw him through the window then he definitely wasn't doing his due diligence.

    If he was a good principal prior to getting fired then I imagine he could have been a great principal if he spent all his time in the office working as opposed to watching porn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    If someone saw him through the window then he definitely wasn't doing his due diligence.

    If he was a good principal prior to getting fired then I imagine he could have been a great principal if he spent all his time in the office working as opposed to watching porn.
    VP, I'm not saying he should not have suffered any repercussions, I'm saying he didn't deserve his life to be ruined.

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    If my spouse was on there and I had no idea, I'd be glad this came out. Even though hacking is illegal and adultery isn't, the adultery would be what caused me the most distress and I'd want to know.

    I find sites like AM disgusting, I didn't even know sites like that existed!


 

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