The sleeping like a baby thread said we can start a new thread for parents who aren't ready to accept our children are destined to be bad sleepers, so here it is.
This is a safe place for parents who are struggling with their children's sleep and they need them to be sleeping better, this is a non judgemental place for parents to discuss ideas on what might be able to help others, and of course vent too!
As we know no two babies are the same and no two parents are the same, so what might work for some families may not work for others.
Sleep training doesn't have to involve leaving a baby to protest cry, there are gentle methods of sleep training, some that do involve crying, some that don't, but it's about finding what works for your baby or toddler but something that also matches your parenting philosophy.
You don't have to accept your child's bad sleep habits, you can try and change them (if you want to of course - not because your friends baby is sleeping better or you read a website or book that said they should be sleeping better - but because it's important to you and your family - you may not be functioning in the day, you may have other children to look after, your child may be cranky all day from lack of sleep etc etc) so come in this thread, being a safe place you can't be accused of being a bad parent for trying to 'change your child' or for 'treating them like robots'. It is not what sleep training is all about. It's about getting the best quality sleep for your child and therefore your entire family.
Of course if you've tried everything under the sun and nothing is working, or you haven't tried everything but you want to accept you do have a child who just isn't going to sleep, that too is okay - it does happen, there are studies to prove this. And if this is the case, it's by no means your fault. You aren't a bad or lazy parent, but head on over to the 'sleeping like a baby' thread, there will be a whole heap of support there too, you can vent away and find strategies on how to happily accept your child's poor sleeping.
Mods any chance this can be a sticky too and checked on as regularly as the other thread to ensure parents using this thread are also being supported, not criticised?