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    Quote Originally Posted by ExcuseMyFrench View Post
    Young European peeps get hammered just as much as young Australians trust me on that ;-)

    The only difference is just that we do it on good wine and nice glasses!!
    I'm sure they do. I backpacked through Europe as a 20 yo and got plenty hammered myself.

    I just think our attitude generally here is very dictatorial about when we are allowed to drink and when we can't.

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    If taxi drivers, bus drivers, truck drivers @ the like have to have a zero alcohol reading then why shouldn't the rest of us??

    Aren't we just as much "on the job" when we get behind the wheel as they are with consideration for our own @ other people's lives??

    IMO we are....
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    Default What are your thoughts on drink driving limits.

    Sorry haven't read through all replies but the issue I have with it being 0.00 is being very petite, I just don't know when the next day or if I've had a glass of wine at lunch but need to go to the shops in the evening when I'm completely negative, if it's say 0.02 or 0.05 it gives you that leeway- I KNOW I'm ok to drive but there could still be a trace amount in my system.

    Or if you have a something like tiramisu....

    I often see the cops setting up RBTs at 8am - I feel it unfairly targets p platers.

    I was so glad to get off my ps- I never have a drink and drive straight away but it's very nerve racking to know you have no idea when you will be ok- especially for us petite people where it's no longer affecting you but you just don't know if any is still showing and it's not fair to be expected to not just drive for hours and hours but others are ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Miss Sunshine View Post
    Sorry haven't read through all replies but the issue I have with it being 0.00 is being very petite, I just don't know when the next day or if I've had a glass of wine at lunch but need to go to the shops in the evening when I'm completely negative, if it's say 0.02 or 0.05 it gives you that leeway- I KNOW I'm ok to drive but there could still be a trace amount in my system.

    Or if you have a something like tiramisu....

    I often see the cops setting up RBTs at 8am - I feel it unfairly targets p platers.

    I was so glad to get off my ps- I never have a drink and drive straight away but it's very nerve racking to know you have no idea when you will be ok- especially for us petite people where it's no longer affecting you but you just don't know if any is still showing and it's not fair to be expected to not just drive for hours and hours but others are ok.
    My friend is a cop and says that she catches most people the next day. They think they're fine after having slept and eaten breakfast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    I'm sure they do. I backpacked through Europe as a 20 yo and got plenty hammered myself.

    I just think our attitude generally here is very dictatorial about when we are allowed to drink and when we can't.
    Becoming quite the nanny state IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveLivesHere View Post
    The person I know well does have to live with the fact that his stupid drinking and driving killed one of his mates and left another in a vegetable state.


    Another family member has to live with the memory of seeing someone decapitated as result of his drinking. The accident happened in front of her. Only by the grace of God it didn't involve her. But she still has live with seeing his demise.
    How horrific!!! What was the drivers Blood alcohol limit?

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    I am happy with the current bac limit of 0.05, I remember reading information when I was learning to drive that this limit equates to 2 standard drinks over the period of 2 hours for an average person. I think this is fair. It allows you to have a nice meal with a glass of wine and if you chose, a dessert like tiramisu which has an alcoholic content.

    However I personally don't drive at all if I've had even one drink and my son is in the car.

    In my personal opinion the limit should be 0.0 if there are children in the vehicle.

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    It's interesting because most of the posts here are about our own personal 'right' to have a drink, when, as we are saying, it's also about personal social responsibility and risk assessment IMO.

    But in the thread about smoking (also legal), it was made very clear that people's right to smoke was inferior to other people's rights not to be affected by smokers.

    There is a social cost to drink driving, though, and others can be and are affected in horrific ways. And while it is usually those who are over the limit who do the most damage, I still think the variability in individual BACs even after one drink muddies the waters.

    I'm usually not a zero tolerance wowser kind of person and I do agree that our drinking culture has some major issues.

    Thanks for those who shared opposing views, there was some stuff there I really hadn't thought about very closely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Squared View Post
    How horrific!!! What was the drivers Blood alcohol limit?
    From memory it was

    The first one was high end mid level drink driving. Since he was under aged I don't know the exact amount. Plus I was only teenager at the time.

    The second was only 0.08. He had had a few beers on his way home from work.

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    Having lost 2 uncles in a car accident to a drink driver, and another uncle who died after being hit on his motorbike by a drunk off duty police officer, I think the limit should be 0.00. Its just not worth putting other people's lives at risk, and the devestation it wreaks on the families left behind.

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