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    Default What are your thoughts on drink driving limits.

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    Why does it have to be 'fair' though? Isn't it about a greater societal responsibility?
    Well for me personally I could say have one glass of wine at lunch then not drive until 4 pm or even later and because of the way I metabolise alcohol I might still be over 0.00. Yet there is no way that one glass of wine 3 hours earlier affects my driving.

    My 2c anyway.
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    In vic, all p and l platers have to be 00 don't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post

    I always wonder how people feel if they've been involved in/caused a serious accident after one or two, even if they've blown under the limit. Whether they are haunted by wondering what would be different if they'd had nothing?
    The person I know well does have to live with the fact that his stupid drinking and driving killed one of his mates and left another in a vegetable state.


    Another family member has to live with the memory of seeing someone decapitated as result of his drinking. The accident happened in front of her. Only by the grace of God it didn't involve her. But she still has live with seeing his demise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    Well for me personally I could say have one glass of wine at lunch then not drive until 4 pm or even later and because of the way I metabolise alcohol I might still be over 0.00. Yet there is no way that one glass of wine 3 hours earlier affects my driving.

    My 2c anyway.
    Do you mean that that would be unfair because for all intents and purposes you would be driving sober but you would still be considered to be breaking the law (if it were 0.0)?

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    0.05 or 0.07 as it used to be I think.

    I think that it's a little far fetching to make it illegal to have a glass of wine for lunch or dinner and not be able to drive home 1—
    2 hrs later. This is not going to be a popular view on the hub but I'm ok with it.

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    Perhaps you could say the same thing about driving with a distracting child in the car? I will drive after one drink if I feel ok. No taxis or buses where I live but I have driven I feel more dangerously, exhausted, with three kids fighting in the back seat.

    I'm quite ok with our legal driving alcohol limit but feel I might be in the minority!

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    Do you mean that that would be unfair because for all intents and purposes you would be driving sober but you would still be considered to be breaking the law (if it were 0.0)?
    Yep

    But I think in Australia we have a really bad and negative approach to alcohol consumption that drink driving limits and alcohol related accidents are a part of or a result of that.

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    Reading these responses I guess I'm realising my struggle is not so much with the practicality of it (maybe not the right word, but like the examples provided by Sonja and R&A) but more the philosophy of it. Like, it's either ok or it's not, and the 0.05 thing blurs those lines for me. I'm an exceptionally high functioning drunk whereas others can feel extremely tipsy after one drink.

    Meh I don't know if I'm making sense. I'm really quite interested in it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    Well for me personally I could say have one glass of wine at lunch then not drive until 4 pm or even later and because of the way I metabolise alcohol I might still be over 0.00. Yet there is no way that one glass of wine 3 hours earlier affects my driving.

    My 2c anyway.
    This exactly. Or a glass of wine with dinner, then drive home 2 hours later. Might be over 0.0 but not going to affect reaction time, etc. or at least I assume so- anyone know what the research says? Is there a good reason to lower the limit to 0.0?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    Why does it have to be 'fair' though? Isn't it about a greater societal responsibility?
    To say the limit should be 0.00 is not aligned to Australia's current cultures and practices in my opinion. It's very normal to have a glass of wine over lunch then drive home. To penalize someone for driving 2 hours after 1 drink is ridiculous.

    Of course when driving you have a responsibility to do so safely.

    However since you asked for opinions, I don't think 0.00 is a fair/reasonable/practical etc. expectation.

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