+ Reply to Thread
Page 2 of 18 FirstFirst 123412 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 173
  1. #11
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    At the beach
    Posts
    10,495
    Thanks
    1,430
    Thanked
    9,003
    Reviews
    3
    Achievements:Topaz Star - 500 postsAmber Star - 2,000 postsAmethyst Star - 5,000 postsEmerald Star - 10,000 posts
    Awards:
    Busiest Member of the Week - week ended 17/10/14100 Posts in a week

    Default What are your thoughts on drink driving limits.

    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    Why does it have to be 'fair' though? Isn't it about a greater societal responsibility?
    Well for me personally I could say have one glass of wine at lunch then not drive until 4 pm or even later and because of the way I metabolise alcohol I might still be over 0.00. Yet there is no way that one glass of wine 3 hours earlier affects my driving.

    My 2c anyway.
    Last edited by Sonja; 06-08-2015 at 22:01.

  2. The Following 14 Users Say Thank You to Sonja For This Useful Post:

    A-Squared  (07-08-2015),atomicmama  (07-08-2015),babyno1onboard  (06-08-2015),BettyW  (06-08-2015),Curby  (06-08-2015),gizmoduckus  (17-08-2015),harvs  (06-08-2015),HollyGolightly81  (06-08-2015),Little Miss Sunshine  (07-08-2015),misskittyfantastico  (06-08-2015),MissMuppet  (06-08-2015),Skyler  (06-08-2015),VicPark  (07-08-2015),~Marigold~  (06-08-2015)

  3. #12
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    2,005
    Thanks
    291
    Thanked
    729
    Reviews
    6
    Achievements:Topaz Star - 500 postsAmber Star - 2,000 posts
    In vic, all p and l platers have to be 00 don't they?

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to Ruby_Tuesday15 For This Useful Post:

    harvs  (06-08-2015)

  5. #13
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    21,651
    Thanks
    15,094
    Thanked
    11,260
    Reviews
    14
    Achievements:Topaz Star - 500 postsAmber Star - 2,000 postsAmethyst Star - 5,000 postsEmerald Star - 10,000 postsRuby Star - 15,000 postsDiamond Star - 20,000 posts
    Awards:
    Busiest Member of the WeekBusiest Member of the Week - week ended 5/2/14Busiest Member of the Week - week ended 31/10/14Busiest Member of the Week - week ended 24/10/14Busiest Member of the Week
    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post

    I always wonder how people feel if they've been involved in/caused a serious accident after one or two, even if they've blown under the limit. Whether they are haunted by wondering what would be different if they'd had nothing?
    The person I know well does have to live with the fact that his stupid drinking and driving killed one of his mates and left another in a vegetable state.


    Another family member has to live with the memory of seeing someone decapitated as result of his drinking. The accident happened in front of her. Only by the grace of God it didn't involve her. But she still has live with seeing his demise.

  6. The Following User Says Thank You to LoveLivesHere For This Useful Post:

    harvs  (06-08-2015)

  7. #14
    harvs's Avatar
    harvs is offline Winner 2014 - Spirit of BubHub Award
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Posts
    9,997
    Thanks
    6,239
    Thanked
    15,895
    Reviews
    1
    Achievements:Topaz Star - 500 postsAmber Star - 2,000 postsAmethyst Star - 5,000 posts
    Awards:
    Busiest Member of the Week - week ended 9/4/15Busiest Member of the Week - week ended 2/4/15Busiest Member of the Week - week ended 19/3/15Busiest Member of the Week200 Posts in a week
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    Well for me personally I could say have one glass of wine at lunch then not drive until 4 pm or even later and because of the way I metabolise alcohol I might still be over 0.00. Yet there is no way that one glass of wine 3 hours earlier affects my driving.

    My 2c anyway.
    Do you mean that that would be unfair because for all intents and purposes you would be driving sober but you would still be considered to be breaking the law (if it were 0.0)?

  8. #15
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    6,872
    Thanks
    5,195
    Thanked
    3,896
    Reviews
    0
    Achievements:Topaz Star - 500 postsAmber Star - 2,000 postsAmethyst Star - 5,000 posts
    0.05 or 0.07 as it used to be I think.

    I think that it's a little far fetching to make it illegal to have a glass of wine for lunch or dinner and not be able to drive home 1—
    2 hrs later. This is not going to be a popular view on the hub but I'm ok with it.

  9. The Following 11 Users Say Thank You to Rose&Aurelia&Hannah For This Useful Post:

    BettyV  (08-08-2015),BettyW  (06-08-2015),harvs  (06-08-2015),HollyGolightly81  (06-08-2015),Little Miss Sunshine  (07-08-2015),monnie24  (07-08-2015),MrsA2B  (22-01-2016),munchkin275  (07-08-2015),Skyler  (06-08-2015),snowqu33n  (07-08-2015),VicPark  (07-08-2015)

  10. #16
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    17,747
    Thanks
    5,085
    Thanked
    8,691
    Reviews
    0
    Achievements:Topaz Star - 500 postsAmber Star - 2,000 postsAmethyst Star - 5,000 postsEmerald Star - 10,000 postsRuby Star - 15,000 posts
    Awards:
    Past Moderator - Thank you
    100 Posts in a week
    Perhaps you could say the same thing about driving with a distracting child in the car? I will drive after one drink if I feel ok. No taxis or buses where I live but I have driven I feel more dangerously, exhausted, with three kids fighting in the back seat.

    I'm quite ok with our legal driving alcohol limit but feel I might be in the minority!

  11. The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to misskittyfantastico For This Useful Post:

    AngelicHobgoblin  (07-08-2015),atomicmama  (07-08-2015),BettyV  (08-08-2015),BettyW  (06-08-2015),harvs  (06-08-2015),hoping28  (07-08-2015),Rose&Aurelia&Hannah  (06-08-2015),Skyler  (06-08-2015)

  12. #17
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    At the beach
    Posts
    10,495
    Thanks
    1,430
    Thanked
    9,003
    Reviews
    3
    Achievements:Topaz Star - 500 postsAmber Star - 2,000 postsAmethyst Star - 5,000 postsEmerald Star - 10,000 posts
    Awards:
    Busiest Member of the Week - week ended 17/10/14100 Posts in a week
    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    Do you mean that that would be unfair because for all intents and purposes you would be driving sober but you would still be considered to be breaking the law (if it were 0.0)?
    Yep

    But I think in Australia we have a really bad and negative approach to alcohol consumption that drink driving limits and alcohol related accidents are a part of or a result of that.

  13. The Following User Says Thank You to Sonja For This Useful Post:

    harvs  (06-08-2015)

  14. #18
    harvs's Avatar
    harvs is offline Winner 2014 - Spirit of BubHub Award
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Posts
    9,997
    Thanks
    6,239
    Thanked
    15,895
    Reviews
    1
    Achievements:Topaz Star - 500 postsAmber Star - 2,000 postsAmethyst Star - 5,000 posts
    Awards:
    Busiest Member of the Week - week ended 9/4/15Busiest Member of the Week - week ended 2/4/15Busiest Member of the Week - week ended 19/3/15Busiest Member of the Week200 Posts in a week
    Reading these responses I guess I'm realising my struggle is not so much with the practicality of it (maybe not the right word, but like the examples provided by Sonja and R&A) but more the philosophy of it. Like, it's either ok or it's not, and the 0.05 thing blurs those lines for me. I'm an exceptionally high functioning drunk whereas others can feel extremely tipsy after one drink.

    Meh I don't know if I'm making sense. I'm really quite interested in it though.

  15. The Following User Says Thank You to harvs For This Useful Post:

    KitiK  (07-08-2015)

  16. #19
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    419
    Thanks
    469
    Thanked
    293
    Reviews
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    Well for me personally I could say have one glass of wine at lunch then not drive until 4 pm or even later and because of the way I metabolise alcohol I might still be over 0.00. Yet there is no way that one glass of wine 3 hours earlier affects my driving.

    My 2c anyway.
    This exactly. Or a glass of wine with dinner, then drive home 2 hours later. Might be over 0.0 but not going to affect reaction time, etc. or at least I assume so- anyone know what the research says? Is there a good reason to lower the limit to 0.0?

  17. The Following User Says Thank You to Adoralicious For This Useful Post:

    harvs  (06-08-2015)

  18. #20
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Adelaide
    Posts
    1,509
    Thanks
    396
    Thanked
    701
    Reviews
    0
    Achievements:Topaz Star - 500 posts
    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    Why does it have to be 'fair' though? Isn't it about a greater societal responsibility?
    To say the limit should be 0.00 is not aligned to Australia's current cultures and practices in my opinion. It's very normal to have a glass of wine over lunch then drive home. To penalize someone for driving 2 hours after 1 drink is ridiculous.

    Of course when driving you have a responsibility to do so safely.

    However since you asked for opinions, I don't think 0.00 is a fair/reasonable/practical etc. expectation.

  19. The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Curby For This Useful Post:

    BettyW  (06-08-2015),harvs  (06-08-2015),Little Miss Sunshine  (07-08-2015),Rose&Aurelia&Hannah  (06-08-2015),Skyler  (06-08-2015),Sonja  (06-08-2015),tazz475  (08-08-2015)


 

Similar Threads

  1. What names are off limits?
    By bigmummahen in forum General Parenting Tips, Advice & Chat
    Replies: 28
    Last Post: 08-07-2015, 08:09
  2. Time limits for baby in capsule? Travel systems
    By eeJAYY in forum Introductions
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 16-04-2015, 21:58
  3. Driving school/driving instructor for overcoming phobia
    By heartstringz in forum General Chat
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 07-04-2015, 16:45

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
free weekly newsletters | sign up now!
who are these people who write great posts? meet our hubbub authors!
Learn how you can contribute to the hubbub!

reviews
learn how you can become a reviewer!

competitions

forum - chatting now
christmas gift guidesee all Red Stocking
Boody Organic Bamboo Baby Wear
Softer than your bub's bum Boody Organic Bamboo Baby Wear
Australia's favourite eco brand has delivered a gorgeous baby collection. Made from organic bamboo, Boody's extraordinarily soft and stretchy, skin-friendly tops, bottoms, onesies, bibs and wraps don't 'cost the earth'. Get 20% OFF! Code BUBHUB16.
sales & new stuffsee all
CarmelsBeautySecrets
Growing your own natural nails is easy. Years ago, I devised a simple and very effective technique which really helps boosts the nails' growth in as little as three days! And most importantly keeps them that way.
featured supporter
Sudocrem / Infacol
Sudocrem® Healing Cream is a soothing emollient cream which aids and assists in the management of nappy rash, eczema, abrasions, wounds and minor skin irritations. Infacol Wind Drops are an effective method of treating wind in infants.
gotcha
X

Pregnant for the first-time?

Not sure where to start? We can help!

Our Insider Programs for pregnancy first-timers will lead you step-by-step through the 14 Pregnancy Must Dos!