So we should just throw our hands up, stick it in the too hard basket and never even attempt to change anything?
Even harsher penalties won't stop the true flogs from doing whatever the heck they want, but it could stop some people long enough to think about what they're doing, and if it stops even one from getting behind the wheel while drunk it would be a good thing.
Yep. Unfortunately, you can't legislate against stupidity or flogginess.
someone is more likely to crash their car because they got distracted for a minute, were using their phone when they shouldn't be or were too tired and made a bad judgement call which resulted in a crash.
should we also ban people from driving if they've had less than 8 hours sleep or ban mobile phones from traveling in cars too?
the point is, there'll always be idiots, regardless of what laws are in place. it's usually that tiny sliver of society that unfortunately ruins it for everyone else. short of not traveling in a car at all, I don't see a way to realistically mitigate the risk completely.
There sure is heaps of sarcasm in this thread 😳
This is the table I posted earlier:
It does happen, and has happened.
But even that isn't really my point. As I and others have stated multiple times, it is one way of eliminating any uncertainty around the guidelines.
As I have also stated, I realise it isn't so black and white as I felt it was when I started this thread, and there are factors that I hadn't considered.
As others who disagree with the idea of a 0.0 limit have stated, they do still believe that a 0.0 limit when driving with children is a good idea. Surely this shows that there is an elevated risk no matter how small?
I am 100% in favour of personal responsibility and sensible risk management, but to imply that it's a stupid thought that people can be involved in fatal accidents even when below the legal limit is just not true. People have also said that at times that have felt too drunk to drive after one wine. Those who have commented and who have behaved responsibly/safely whatever word is not going to get everyone's back up have my gratitude. But let's not kid ourselves that everyone is like that.
And speaking of mobile phones, they are banned full stop for drivers afaik. There isn't a law that says if you have had xyz amount of sleep within abc amount of time, and are driving in such and such level of traffic and have below x amount of distraction then it's ok, but if not then it's not.
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