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    @harvs I think there is constant tension between social responsibility and personal responsibility. At various times in my life I shift between the 2. Now my girls are getting older I find myself moving more toward personal responsibility as I want them to take ownership of their actions and behaviours. And I suppose that colours the way I view many of these issues at the moment. I really do think there can be both but we have gone too far to the extent where we legislate against everything for fear one or two people might hurt themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Same as many laws. Eg you can have sex at 16. Some kids are ready at 15, some aren't ready until they are 21. A line has to be drawn somewhere that accommodates most of the population because a line of zero might be so unreasonable it might do more harm than the alternative.
    That's very true. I wonder if the guidelines though are over relied upon because they are considered to be based in science? I don't know if that makes sense. Like, if people follow the guidelines more than their own perception of 'okay ness' to drive?

    I think PPs suggestions of education around/possibly modifying the guidelines would be very useful here.

    I drank a couple of times while breastfeeding and assumed it was ok (not starting a debate about booze and breastmilk, just an example) because I accepted that the guidelines were universal. But maybe for some reason I might metabolise alcohol differently and DS was getting a full shot of vodka? Although if that was the case he might have actually slept! It's not the best example but...meh.

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    Default What are your thoughts on drink driving limits.

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    @GucciDahling Just a few I found from the first few pages.... All implying that those that have the one drink then drive are irresponsible with no societal responsibilities.
    Oh please! You're still stretching.
    The first post I quoted from you said nothing about a drink followed by driving. Your post was a single drink with dinner made you a horrible person. That's simply not what anyone said

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICanDream View Post
    It most certainly doesn't in my opinion. I don't drink simply because I don't like the taste, I've tried spirits, wine, champagne and beer and just don't like it. I'm not a wowser and I'm certainly not against alcohol, if I liked it I'd be in like Flynn!
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    I wish I was someone who hated the taste of wine. I'd save sooo much money 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by GucciDahling View Post
    Oh please! You're still stretching.
    The first post I quoted from you said nothing about a drink followed by driving. Your post was a single drink with dinner made you a horrible person. That's simply not what anyone said
    Well it certainly reads that way.

    Dont worry, I'm not particularly upset by it. I knew my point of view wouldn't be popular in BH land from the beginning. I'm only still posting online as I'm a bit bored tonight as all my friends are doing fun things and I'm home alone pregnant with two sleeping children.

    Gah! What would I do for a bottle of wine now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose&Aurelia View Post
    Gah! What would I do for a bottle of wine now!
    hearing you loud and clear. 🍷🍷🍷

    I've forgotten what wine tastes like 😔

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisecoast View Post
    hearing you loud and clear. 🍷🍷🍷

    I've forgotten what wine tastes like 😔
    I certainly haven't. That's why I'm missing the damn thing so much. I've started to pack my hospital bag... So far I have a lovely bottle of red wine in there. And that's it.

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    I'm dying for a glass of port. I haven't had a proper drink since I got pregnant with DS almost 2 years ago! I looooove port! Sorry I digress

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose&Aurelia View Post
    I certainly haven't. That's why I'm missing the damn thing so much. I've started to pack my hospital bag... So far I have a lovely bottle of red wine in there. And that's it.
    😂😂😂

    have you had any glasses of wine whilst pregnant? a lot of ladies I know will have a sip of their husbands/partners glass which I think is totally understandable. once I'm out of the first (worst) trimester I'll prob have the occasional sip too.

    as someone who drinks fairly regularly otherwise, I must say the forced break from wine is refreshing. I'm enjoying it. but I also miss it. a glass tonight would've gone down a treat.

    chocolate will have to suffice!!


 

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