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    Default IVF over 40 #15

    Great news @Bongley. I know you have never had any frosties so you have that psychological barrier in your head, however it is donor eggs and no reason not to believe that at least 4 will be tested/frozen.
    @midnite01 when is your transfer?

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    @Bongley I just saw this now....that's great news FX for Sunday!

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    @Bongley that's great news!

    @leyshoha There is so much conflicting information out there, but FYI - dr m had 6 patients (in our small support group) do transfers in July, so far 4bfp's and one bfn, one still to test. A pretty good strike rate. One of the ladies pregnant for the first time using dr m protocol, after being told she Wd never be able to carry a baby and had used a surrogate to get her first bubba.

    There are side effects with everything to do with ivf. I went to the hospital with blurred vision and a massive migraine just after my last cycle and the Drs there told me that the ivf drugs we are taking can cause blood clots and brain bleeds, but the ivf Drs never say any of that to us! The thing is to be aware, like when on steroids you need to increase calcium, magnesium and folate, and you can do what you can to mitigate the risks.

    But in the end you have to be comfortable with what you are doing, and any associated risks to your body.

    I apologize if I am coming across as pushy and telling you what to do. We all just want you to get that bubba in your arms xxxx

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    Congrats @Bongley that's super news!! Good luck for Sundays call. Yay!!!

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    Oh Bongley, that's great news with 100% fertilisation rates!!!!

    Now ladies I need to respectfully go against the grain on this one. I do not blame anyone for going with things that are anecdotally beneficial, or things that 'can't hurt'. I am even prone to the odd bout of magically thinking. So go for it, do what ever you 'believe'. But I just want to add my opinion which comes from 10 years of formal study in science and my ongoing involvement in medical research at a major University. Now I am not being hoity toity but there are levels of scientific evidence that are required before any medicine becomes medicine. It is not a matter of what a doctor 'believes' or does not 'believe', it is a matter of what is proven and what is repeatable in many many peer reviewed and rigorous scientific studies. The rest is pseudoscience and will be peddled by alternate practitioners. Those who are losing hope such as end stage cancer patients and people who have failed many rounds of ivf (I am one of these people!), are very vulnerable to taking on the 'miracle' pseudo cures. I think it is sad that alternative practitioners are selling false hope in so many areas of medicine and I empathise with everyone because I know I even went to an Ayurverdic practitioner because 'they have been doing it for thousands of years so how could they be wrong', spent $100's on their potions then promptly went and threw them all in the bin when I came back to my senses.
    Medicine is scientifically proven.
    The rest is hearsay.
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    Em is right about 36 for a box. Im on 40mg or whatever it is measured in. One a day. I stopped after chem preg and only started on day 1 for fet.

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    Im booked in for transfer on monday. Just hope it thaws ok.

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    My fs was quite conservative in relation to me being on asprin and clexane until about 28 weeks and progest until about 26 weeks!! Imagine the $$$$ for progest but happy to do with whatever he said. He was my ob as well as fs.

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    @Bongley amazing fert results all the best for sunday luv

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyler View Post
    Oh Bongley, that's great news with 100% fertilisation rates!!!!

    Now ladies I need to respectfully go against the grain on this one. I do not blame anyone for going with things that are anecdotally beneficial, or things that 'can't hurt'. I am even prone to the odd bout of magically thinking. So go for it, do what ever you 'believe'. But I just want to add my opinion which comes from 10 years of formal study in science and my ongoing involvement in medical research at a major University. Now I am not being hoity toity but there are levels of scientific evidence that are required before any medicine becomes medicine. It is not a matter of what a doctor 'believes' or does not 'believe', it is a matter of what is proven and what is repeatable in many many peer reviewed and rigorous scientific studies. The rest is pseudoscience and will be peddled by alternate practitioners. Those who are losing hope such as end stage cancer patients and people who have failed many rounds of ivf (I am one of these people!), are very vulnerable to taking on the 'miracle' pseudo cures. I think it is sad that alternative practitioners are selling false hope in so many areas of medicine and I empathise with everyone because I know I even went to an Ayurverdic practitioner because 'they have been doing it for thousands of years so how could they be wrong', spent $100's on their potions then promptly went and threw them all in the bin when I came back to my senses.
    Medicine is scientifically proven.
    The rest is hearsay.
    Yes agree Luv, until it is proven. However, just because immune issues haven't met the burden of proof as yet 100% doesn't mean that it's complete BS like certain other charlatans/alternative practitioners selling their snake oil remedies and procedures. Lovelies like @Chiefsgirl and @MGC Bertie are true, real life and current cases in point.

    I'd hardly lump Wazza or Dr M in with the kind of people you're referring to either. I've read many studies undertaken and peer reviewed papers too and think that more study in the area needs to be undertaken with a wider group over longer time as a lot of the studies I read had a small control group plus the ages of participants were a lot younger too etc. so don't believe the results are a true reflection.

    Science doesn't know everything yet. New things are discovered all the time. Before they were those things were also discounted as being unproven or BS or not possible etc. until they were. Obviously in many instances there is years of studies and data to prove/disprove theories (vaccination for eg) but I don't believe on this particular issue there is enough as yet.

    Just my opinion and I'm a great believer in science myself.
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