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    Quote Originally Posted by beckymae View Post
    Hi Bongley thank you! Yes, we got an unexpected frosty that we nicknamed The Afterthought as it was slower to grow but better looking thatn the transferred one

    Anyone know what the policy is on transferring AFTER 45 years old? If this cycle doesn't work I would like to do another fresh one in SEP and keep the frosty on ice. I am 45 in OCT, anyone have experience here? I know everywhere will be different. I'm at RPA.
    Ah yes, The Afterthought, I remember now I don't know what their official line is but I would have thought they'd be ok with it, the eggs will be under the age of 45?? You have done really well to get a BFP and a frostie!

    Good idea to do another stim cycle while you can but lets hope you don't need to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bongley View Post
    Ah yes, The Afterthought, I remember now I don't know what their official line is but I would have thought they'd be ok with it, the eggs will be under the age of 45?? You have done really well to get a BFP and a frostie!

    Good idea to do another stim cycle while you can but lets hope you don't need to.
    Yes, I think so too....I'm seeing a new naturopath on THU as I want to look into taking DHEA and melatonin prior to the next one. Gotta get the best egss possible!

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    @beckymae - get yourself a First Response Early Response test they are so much better and more of an indicator than those blue dye tests. Crinone comes out salmon colour all the time, even in BFP cycles. Hang in there.

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    Beckymae second with emski. Frer ones are heaps better. Sometimes the dye amounts in the poas can differ as well. Still have everything crossed for you xxx

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    Thanks guys! I'll get some of those whilst I'm out 😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by beckymae View Post
    Hi Bongley thank you! Yes, we got an unexpected frosty that we nicknamed The Afterthought as it was slower to grow but better looking thatn the transferred one

    Anyone know what the policy is on transferring AFTER 45 years old? If this cycle doesn't work I would like to do another fresh one in SEP and keep the frosty on ice. I am 45 in OCT, anyone have experience here? I know everywhere will be different. I'm at RPA.
    Hi Beckymae, things are looking good for you, a line is a line at this stage, you can't really judge it on the darkness of the line unless you are using frers and even then we really shouldn't but we do! These urine tests are qualitative ie yes or no, they in no way are meant to be quantitative. Don't forget they are testing the amount of hcg in urine, not blood. So you are with RPA which is run by Genea right? I'm with Genea, I wanted to 'bank' embies but it is strictly not allowed unless there are special circumstances. This applies definitely to pgd normals but I am less clear on their policy regards untested embies. Age of the uterus is not a problem until late 40's so transfer can be done at any age, it's just that they will give you a zero success rate with stims after 45, not transfers IYKWIM.

    And Charlie it's true what Emerald said. I have done lots of pgd unfortunately and I know that an embie has to be hatching to be biopsied but it does not have to be hatching to be transferred so many embies are not advanced enough to be tested but they are fine for transfer and many of them become babies. There needs to be enough trophectoderm protruding from the shell for them to take enough cells for the biopsy. I once got a 'no result' from a biopsy because the sample they took was not big enough but this did not mean the embie was abnormal.

    Now hurry up with your BFP's Winsor and Tuxcat
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    Thanks @Skyler! So you think that they won't let me do another cycle until I've used the frosty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beckymae View Post
    Thanks @Skyler! So you think that they won't let me do another cycle until I've used the frosty?
    Well they would not let me do that but if you come up with some really valid reason and stamp your foot a bit they might make an exception? They are just really ethically concerned about the issue of 'left over' embryos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyler View Post
    Well they would not let me do that but if you come up with some really valid reason and stamp your foot a bit they might make an exception? They are just really ethically concerned about the issue of 'left over' embryos.
    I'll ask them on THU when I go in for my blood test....I don't want to rock the boat and my birthday is not till end of OCT so I have three months to play with...eek!

    Hopefully we won't need to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyler View Post
    Well they would not let me do that but if you come up with some really valid reason and stamp your foot a bit they might make an exception? They are just really ethically concerned about the issue of 'left over' embryos.
    Yes, like having 18 embies on ice and wondering what we can do with them all! Unfortunately for us due to strict US law we can't donate our embryo's due to the fact we didn't pay to have specific testing on them.

    Dh is already joking about the rugby team and we're not even two days after the first BFP Bt!

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