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    Quote Originally Posted by ChelleBH View Post
    So we shouldn't worry about secondhand smoking being an issue because there's so many other things causing more harm...?
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    Plus it not such a big deal the government had to bring in laws to deal with minimise to risk to the general public. Right?

    Yes the smokers have the right to smoke where it is legal.

    But don't tell me it's Overkill to worry about the risk of something that has been proved to cause death and injury.

    We all take risks that we deem appropriate. You decide for your family based on your knowledge and your family history. I will base my risk assessment on my knowledge and my family health needs.

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    I'm a smoker (unfortunately 😔) I think there's nothing wrong with her smoking in her uniform, obviously she doesn't get in trouble for it but yes she should of moved further away. I think a lot of smokers are inconsiderate and don't care where they smoke, me personally I move as far away from people as possible.
    I worked in childcare, yes I smoked at the time. We had a designated smoking area away from the centre and I used to always carry an extra shirt or jumper to put on to go out and take off when I was finished, it was kept in my car. I'd wash my hands and brush my teeth after I'd had a smoke before going back to work.
    Some smokers care about others and some really couldn't care less.
    It's not illegal to smoke but consideration for others should just be second nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveLivesHere View Post
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    Plus it not such a big deal the government had to bring in laws to deal with minimise to risk to the general public. Right?

    Yes the smokers have the right to smoke where it is legal.

    But don't tell me it's Overkill to worry about the risk of something that has been proved to cause death and injury.

    We all take risks that we deem appropriate. You decide for your family based on your knowledge and your family history. I will base my risk assessment on my knowledge and my family health needs.
    I have 2 asthmatic children, & I completely agree. When youve seen your child gasping for breath and turning blue, puffing ventolin into then as youre waiting for the ambulance &praying that they will survive this one,then yeah, second hand smoke is a big deal. It can be a major trigger for asthmatics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChelleBH View Post
    So we shouldn't worry about secondhand smoking being an issue because there's so many other things causing more harm...?
    No, but I think unless you are mitigating every avenue of toxicity for your kids then it's a bit silly to be death staring and abusing people for doing something that is a) legal b) harming your child far less. I know the OP didn't do any of that but several people in this thread have said they do. I think it's become quite socially undesirable to smoke, which is good really. but along with that people have become quite nasty and OTT with smokers.

    I just find it weird that people in this thread are happily sitting bumper to bumper with fumes filling the car and pollution every day with their kids but go nuts over a tiny wiff of smoke once in a while.

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    I would probably think what a feral. I can not stand people smoking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    No, but I think unless you are mitigating every avenue of toxicity for your kids then it's a bit silly to be death staring and abusing people for doing something that is a) legal b) harming your child far less. I know the OP didn't do any of that but several people in this thread have said they do. I think it's become quite socially undesirable to smoke, which is good really. but along with that people have become quite nasty and OTT with smokers.

    I just find it weird that people in this thread are happily sitting bumper to bumper with fumes filling the car and pollution every day with their kids but go nuts over a tiny wiff of smoke once in a while.
    Ok who has been nasty or over the top to smokers this thread or admitted been nasty to them in real life. No one.

    What has been said is we would like them to act responsible and not smoke where it is illegal.

    Some people have said that seeing someone smoking have turned them off doing business with some companies. That not nasty it making a choice.

    Absolutely nobody has said they are happy for their kids to sit toxic fumes from cars.
    That is bloody ridiculous. It's trying to say one thing is not bad because something else is worse. Your better than that. Truly you are.

    Let's face you could rung rings around me in a debate. If you had a decent point to make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    No, but I think unless you are mitigating every avenue of toxicity for your kids then it's a bit silly to be death staring and abusing people for doing something that is a) legal b) harming your child far less. I know the OP didn't do any of that but several people in this thread have said they do. I think it's become quite socially undesirable to smoke, which is good really. but along with that people have become quite nasty and OTT with smokers.

    I just find it weird that people in this thread are happily sitting bumper to bumper with fumes filling the car and pollution every day with their kids but go nuts over a tiny wiff of smoke once in a while.
    Regarding the death staring & abusing people - remember, what some people say on the internet and actually do in real life are different..

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    I'm backing @LoveLivesHere 100% on this. I have had asthma attacks from smokers so I see her point. Where I live there is a butcher who smokes. He usually stands just outside the 4m mark, outside a different shop also in uniform. It puts me off knowing his apron, clothes and skin is covered in cigarette smoke and fumes. It also puts me off going into the other shop he stands near because of fumes. It's not a good look. It shouldn't be my problem he smokes but it is.

    some smokers I know are so self involved and selfish they think it doesn't affect anyone else. They say they have every right to smoke in their own house, car and wherever, and they don't care if kids are present because it doesn't hurt anyone.

    Some smokers are rude, inconsiderate, selfish and egotistical with no care for others or businesses they represent. If they have no thought for the brand they represent, they generally have no thought or consideration for those around them.


    Eta: *** disclaimer: I said SOME, not all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveLivesHere View Post
    Ok who has been nasty or over the top to smokers this thread or admitted been nasty to them in real life. No one.

    What has been said is we would like them to act responsible and not smoke where it is illegal.

    Some people have said that seeing someone smoking have turned them off doing business with some companies. That not nasty it making a choice.

    Absolutely nobody has said they are happy for their kids to sit toxic fumes from cars.
    That is bloody ridiculous. It's trying to say one thing is not bad because something else is worse. Your better than that. Truly you are.

    Let's face you could rung rings around me in a debate. If you had a decent point to make.
    Wowsers. I'm not sure why you are getting so irate. The thread asked for people's opinions. To address your points without telling you your argument is 'bloody ridiculous':

    1) People in have said in varying degrees that they would be rude.

    2) From what the OP has said, it wasn't illegal and everyone has clearly said smokers should be considerate, including me. Not sure where that argument is coming from.

    3) I never mentioned being annoyed that anyone would be annoyed at the business nor boycott it. Their choice, consumer sovereignty and all that. Not sure where that come from.

    4) You are deliberately misinterpreting my words. I'm not sure how else I can word it. There are so many things in our world in every day of living our lives that are much more dangerous and toxic than a wiff of smoke. Yet we continue to do them. Because we can't live in a bubble.

    5) Your rudeness in this thread at valid arguments has me surprised as is the way you've twisted what I've said. You are better than that too. People are allowed to disagree.

    Anyhoo, I think I had better unsub to allow everyone to agree. Clearly my posts are unwanted so I'll just back out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DesperatelySeekingSleep View Post
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    Some smokers are rude, inconsiderate, selfish and egotistical with no care for others or businesses they represent. If they have no thought for the brand they represent, they generally have no thought or consideration for those around them.


    Eta: *** disclaimer: I said SOME, not all.
    Haha, I think this about the majority of the population - smokers or not! ☺️


 
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