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    Hi everyone!

    I'm a newbie/male/Sydney and it's great to stumble across this site. Some/many of you might be able to relate but I've been searching for information around azoospermia and possible solutions, alternatives, etc.

    What I want to ask the forum is/are:
    1/ Thoughts on IVFA versus its competitors?
    2/ Thoughts on doctors/specialists. E.g. did you consult with multiple doctors before settling with a specific one?
    3/ Any positive results using alternative/natural therapies?

    As a background, I found out last year that I have zero sperm count. My GP recommended to see a urologist for further tests though I went directly to IVFA. So far, I wasn't too impressed with the service; the sessions were rushed and it felt like to ask questions to better understand the situation was wrong and/or you come out of the session feeling absolutely dumb. Setting aside that IVF could be a last resort to have children "naturally", my wife and I are certainly keen to look for a clinic or a specialist where the experiences we had thus far wouldn't happen again otherwise it's just off putting to go back.

    On a different note, even before I found out I had zero counts, I have read of a number of couples who had no luck with IVFs yet they tried alternative therapies which actually worked for them. I wonder if anyone in the forum belongs to this statistic. I actually asked my GP about this and she believes that in some cases, the zero count could just mean that something is "asleep" in our body which the alternative medicines "wakes" up somehow. Worth a shot apparently but I wouldn't know where to start.

    Anyway, thank you so much for your time and appreciate any info.

    Take care.

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    I am sorry for your diagnosis. Azoospemia is the worst nightmare for a couple who wants to have biologically children. There is an active azoospermia thread in the forum. All ladies, though. You can search for it. I can't attach link here. There are two types of azoo. Obstructive and non-obstructive. If you have obstructive, you are very lucky and an IVF will help you to get your biological children. If the latter, the chance is extremely slim. Some people with these conditions have genetic cause. Some don't and just born to be this way with genetic misfired.

    I have just gone through the journey ourselves. DH is non obstructive (very unfortunate). I don't know who u see at IVFA. We are from Perth and have had great experiences there. Perth Dr just told us zero chance to have our biological child and we tried our luck in Syd with one of the few Drs in Australia who will do mTESE surgery to find sperms. We had a success on the surgery but probably the quality isn't good enough to result in a live birth. We have since gone down the donor path. A long hard road.

    Scientifically, if your azoo is caused by poor diet and lifestyle. Alternative can help. Otherwise, there is no such thing as alternative but IVF. Have you done another SA to confirm the diagnosis?

    Edit: Have a look at Cornell urology website. It explains different kind of azoo and treatments. If the second SA also comes back zero, I would see a FS and find out the cause -- non-obstructive or obstructive. At Ganea, the best is Dr Derek Lok. At IVFA, there are a few, but Dr Golovsky and Dr Kim are Drs who specialized in this field. Since you have been to IVFA, perhaps try Dr Lok. My GP doesn't know anything about azoo. I really hope that you have the obstructive case or just one off thing. All the best.
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    Thank you so much, bbhope.

    No further tests besides the count test however I am due for a biopsy to determine the actual cause and go "fishing" and freeze any that they might find (at least that's how I understood what the doctor said). I'm going to look for another specialist though, not so much to get a second opinion but just someone with an EQ.

    My wife and I are hoping a very positive outcome for you as well <fingers crossed>

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    It isn't clear to me if you have done second SA to confirm the diagnosis. I have read someone with zero count on this thread but somehow the second SA came back with sperms.

    I would recommend blood test first before going into the biopsy. Anything involves "poking" your bits is invasive. FSH, LH, testerone, Cystic Fibrosis, karyotyping, microdeletion of Y chromosome, inhibin B. GP can order them. If none of these stand out, then I would go with the suggestion of biopsy.

    Do you know if they are doing TESA? ie. Using a needle to take samples and if find any, freeze the sperms. Please don't go with open biopsy (ie. TESE) just yet. That's highly invasive.

    Feel free to ask any more question. It is hard to deal with such diagnosis and I've learned a lot and support on this forum.


 

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