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    Thanks @Minib oh my goodness I'm the same. It stresses me out as I really want to just breast feed but I feel I don't produce enough. So I give her formula at night and breast during the day. However then they say that decreases your milk and I honestly don't know what to do

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    If you give her formula at night, you could maybe express @mags83. That way your breasts are still getting the stimulation. Have you been to lactation clinic? Are you sure you don't have enough milk? I'm not saying this doubting you but why did you top up with formula? My Bub lost too much weight so we had to top up. Then I tried no top up for a few days. She was dehydrated, didn't poo and yellow colour wee. I completely lost confidence. Started topping up again and expressing all the time to stimulate. After 6 weeks, I gave up trying to exclusively BF. It stressed me out too much and i didn't produce enough. Once I accepted this I was happy with mixed feeding. A lot of work though. BF, top up then express.

    A lot of us women don't feel confident but I have friends who have enough milk eventually even with a rough start. My MHN said I could try to BF only for 48 hours and do weigh in before and after that 48 hours. That's a good indication if Bub lose or gain weight.

    I am pro mixed feeding but I'm all about trying my best then at some point we need to accept the reality.

    I am rambling. I hope it makes sense. Try your best @mags83 but don't beat yourself up. I did that and not nice. I was feeling so down about feeding. As long as your Bub is fed that's what matters. But don't jump into conclusion you don't have enough BM. It can take weeks to get your milk established.

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    This is what I did before I concluded I don't have enough milk.

    I BF only for 3 days - Bub lost weight. This is after we came home. She kept crying and couldn't sleep properly.

    I then BF, top up and express every Feed. Gosh it was tiring. It could take up to 2 hours including settling her. Then it's feeding time again. I did this for 6 weeks. I hardly slept.

    I ate lactation cookies daily. Took fenugreek. Took motilium (prescription drugs), drank plenty of water, ate a lot.

    I saw 3 lactation consultants. Checked on my latching, my feeding method, etc.

    After 6 weeks I stopped expressing during the day. I BF and top up. The 7 pm feed I give formula only. I wanted to make sure she's full and not second guessing myself on how much milk she's had. I then express at 9 pm, midnight and 3 am.

    Now at almost 10 weeks, she starts to really fuss during BF. She's frustrated as my milk supply has gone down I think. I stopped taking motilium. I plan to persist until 12 weeks then stop. I now express at 10 pm and 2 am.

    Bub has about 4-5 feeds during the day. BF then top up with EBM pumped the night before. She has formula at 7 pm and 3 am.

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    Default FET Feb/Mar 2015 #2

    @Minib thanks for the info and you are not rambling at all. So after my ideal in hospital I was bf. I came hm and did that for a few days and in top of been emotionally and physically tired I was in agony as she was ripping my nipples and they were fracked. I almost gave up and was told to take a little break n try shields. I did that and was still in pain. After seeing the maternal health nurse and her seeing me n speaking to hubby she advised that I top up at night as I really needed rest n had pushed myself way too far. I did that and I was getting some sleep but still quite stresses with emotions going haywire. So after feeds she has never slept longer than 10 minutes and with formula she was. My boobs don't squirt milk and when expressing I get absolutely jack. She doesn't settle after I bf and could cry for a while whilst trying to suck out milk.
    Now I'm rambling on sorry! So now I'm bf during the day if I find I can't settle her I will top up and give formula at night. I haven't tried pills which I will do, I just don't know what to do.

    I do want to get to just bf but scared I've stuffed that up! Oh k forgot I went to a breastfeeding class thing and she said she lychees fine and was good. But didn't seem like that except on that day for some reason

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    Oh big hugs @mags83.

    I found BF to be the hardest thing to do. So unnatural yet it was meant to be. I was so stressed as well that all the bonding I was supposed to feel went out the window.

    It almost broke me. I had no sleep and put so much pressure on myself that I was so down.

    Like you, my baby would only sleep for 10 mins after BF but after formula top up she would sleep for a couple hours. So clearly she was hungry.

    I think it's a brilliant idea to use formula at night. Bub can sleep longer and DH can help you while you get some rest. It's catch 22. The more tired and stressed you are the less milk you produce.

    How many weeks is Bub now? Milk supply can take a few weeks to build up. That's what I was told. If you really want to build it up, maybe you could express more. And also try fenugreek. That might help. I expressed heaps and I think it helped a bit because my baby didn't suck really well.

    No matter what you do, make sure you have enough rest. And don't put too much pressure on yourself. As long as Bub is fed it really doesn't matter how she's fed. And you are doing an awesome job!!! Don't let BF be the only thing about motherhood. That's how I felt and once I didn't care as much how she's fed, we are much happier.

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    @Minib so true! I do at times feel so bad giving her formula and just wish I had heaps of milk! Ppl say you have milk etc but I just feel like I don't and in sure I don't have enough! Oh well either or I'll keep doing what in doing for now and try the pills too!

    See how I go if that doesn't help I'll just continue this way until it's all formula or vice versa!

    Jenna is now a month old tomorrow! I really can't believe how time has flown since she has been born! It's crazy! How old is ur bubs? Are you in Melbourne too!? Can't remember if j had asked before xx

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    My little one is 10 weeks old now. She's a little chubba lol.

    We are in Melb.

    I also wished I had lots of milk. And when people kept saying don't give up keep nursing it used to stress me out more. Lol

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    I hear you ladies! I struggled with breastfeeding the first time around. Mags83 I had the same, raw, cracked and bleeding nipples. I was in an insane amount of pain but I also had oversupply so ended up with engorgment and mastitis. I had to take him off the boob at day 5 to allow myself to heal. Unfortunately that took almost a week but by then he was just too used to the bottle and formula. I was pretty devastated at the time but honestly it was the best thing for both of us as he was more content, slept much longer stretches and we were both happier. People try to guilt you but do what is right for you and your baby.
    This time I had a huge supply too, almost 100ml every 3 hours pumping when he was only taking about 12ml every two hours. It was hard to wean my milk down after he passed.
    The one thing I was told this time about building supply (as I wasn't contact feeding) that the two most important things to increase your supply is to drink lots of water (2-3ltr a day of plain water, any other drinks don't count) and sleep.

    Your bubs are both at such a cute age!!

    We have started a fundraiser on behalf of our angel if either of you are interested or may be able to share with friends or family that may be interested in helping out too

    http://cuddlecots.gofundraise.com.au/page/KobeRhys

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    @SoReady how are you going? Great to hear from you. I think about you a lot.

    Thanks for sending through the link. I will def donate. No parent should have to go through what you did.

    After all the effort to build up milk, mine has dropped significantly overnight. No wonder my daughter has been hitting me and crying on the boobs a bit in the past week. I admit that I haven't tried as hard to maintain it. Ironic! I tried so hard to build it and now I'm a bit over it lol. I probably don't drink enough water and stopping motilium a week ago didn't help.

    I feel guilty still. But I am also proud that I managed to BF for 10.5 weeks when I thought 6 weeks would be a miracle given the state I was in around 4 weeks. Will persist until the end of this week then switch I think. It's too disrupting otherwise for her to always get so frustrated during feeding. It's supposed to be happy time for her.

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    I'm doing ok minib. Taking it day by day but we took a little holiday over my due date which helped a lot. We still don't have a lot of answers which is frustrating but I've made the decision to put my energy into something positive rather than continue down the official complaint route as realistically no matter how much fuss I make its not going to bring him back.

    My OB has given me the physical all clear to be pregnant again whenever I am ready but my IVF specialist says at least 6 months and three cycles before doing a stim cycle. So at this stage we have a huge list of vitamins etc to start in April, will do a scar of my internal scan in May and if all goes well we can cycle in June. It just feels so unfair to be back at the start all over again. We thought we were done after this pregnancy but I couldn't bear the thought of not trying again.

    I think you have done amazing persisting with the breast feeding. I think the first month is most important and you've done that so few proud not guilty. How is it all going besides the feeding?


 

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