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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyBovine View Post
    Oh FFS it's not double dipping. The libs want to wind back the eligibility criteria for government PPL.

    Instead of coming out and admitting this they are going their tried and tested route of labelling women who are lucky enough to be eligible for employer and government funded PPL as double dipping to create a smokescreen for a nasty policy. Kind of like labelling refugees as illegals. It creates an us and them mentality and has been a very successful marketing ploy to garner support for targeting vulnerable people in society.
    You make a fair point but you can't compare it to refugees 'being labelled as illegals' it's more complex than that. But that's another thread all together

    I do hope labour really hammer home to the general population about the % of GDP spending and the liberal voters (or especially the swinging voters) get the picture that TA is a LIAR!

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    I'm looking at this thread and realising that I started the budget thread last year, and this year I know nothing about it....!

    Because I've virtually stopped watching the news since TA has been prime minister! I'd rather watch ABC for kids with DS. Apart from what I've seen on mad as hell, I am totally clueless. Ignorance us bliss, reality is too painful it seems. Lol.

    Bring back shaun! Although Charlie is good too!

    im im a single parent, not sure how I'm affected by the budget....

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Squared View Post
    You make a fair point but you can't compare it to refugees 'being labelled as illegals' it's more complex than that. But that's another thread all together

    I do hope labour really hammer home to the general population about the % of GDP spending and the liberal voters (or especially the swinging voters) get the picture that TA is a LIAR!
    Oh I don't know I think there is a comparison. The double dipping rhetoric and mentions of women on $90k salaries is designed to make you think any woman accessing the government ppl scheme is basically a welfare cheat even though that's how it was designed to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScubaGal View Post
    Oh I don't know I think there is a comparison. The double dipping rhetoric and mentions of women on $90k salaries is designed to make you think any woman accessing the government ppl scheme is basically a welfare cheat even though that's how it was designed to work.
    I just meant there are illegal and legal refugees so there is 'some' truth to what gets bandied about in the media. But as I say anything more than that should be discussed in another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elijahs Mum View Post
    Yep this is me , we've taken a huge income drop but you couldn't pay me enough to work full time , I wouldn't work part time either if I didn't have too!
    Here! Here! Completely agree!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Miss Sunshine View Post
    Apart from the fact some mums don't want to work full time when their kids are small?

    They can try as hard as they want, I did not WANT to return full time....and WON'T return full time whilst my children are still young. It should be a choice, not forced upon us.

    Eta: I work part time and I still struggle to get the chores done and spend quality time with my dd! It's bloody exhausting!
    I agree. I also work part time and that's hard enough as it is let alone working fulltime! Especially hard with a bub who wakes multiple times at night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyamum View Post
    And my issue is that while the govt is trying to help women back into work with affordable cc they are missing a valuable resource in skilled educated parents who are being given the message by them, media and other women that if they want a career they must put it first above family. I'd just like to see some balance and some support for people returning to work after a break. I'm not suggesting taking years off we can just slot back in but we can still be productive and useful. It shouldn't be an either/or choice. We'll all be working til we're 70, even 10 years out still leaves heaps of time. I think the govt should be supporting people back to work after long absences as well as those who return quickly to their old jobs. There definitely is an attitude that taking time out we have made our own bed and noone really gives a crap about us. Fine but even from a practical, economical point of view welcoming us back could tap into a huge underused resource.
    Maybe I am missing something I haven't seen that message (that if women want a career they must put it above family/people don't give a crap about parents who have taken extended leave).

    How do you suggest the government support women going back to work? There's only so much they can do (encourage flexible work when it is practical - I went back 4 days after ds2). To an extent a lot of the reintegration is on the job training that businesses and the employee have to sort out. And yes I think that is people who take extended leave have to be prepared for. It doesn't mean I don't think they aren't of any value. To be honest I think parents that have looked after kids and run a household have certain skills (organizational, prioritisation etc) that more than make up for any retraining costs.

    Maybe I'm Missing something - I just don't see any conspiracy surrounding the issues parents taking extended leave may experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Squared View Post
    I just meant there are illegal and legal refugees so there is 'some' truth to what gets bandied about in the media. But as I say anything more than that should be discussed in another thread.
    Definitely another thread... Seeking refuge is a human right as defined by the UN. No such thing as an illegal refugee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScubaGal View Post
    Definitely another thread... Seeking refuge is a human right as defined by the UN. No such thing as an illegal refugee.
    Not to derail further... but 1 in 10 arrivals by boat in the last few years were not genuine refugees. 9 in 10 were genuine refugees. I think it is the 1 in 10 to which she is referring... that were denied refugee status in our country and sent back to their country of origin. Its not illegal, but a waste of resources that could be spent on refugees. And i havent looked, but I hope we have finances in this budget to take on more refugees. It is a worldwide crisis at the moment,and my heart goes out to all those facing persecution and living & dying in refugee camps waiting for help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nic1298 View Post
    I am the sole income earner of my husband and I as he has just started a new business. We are expecting our first in September and have had to make adjustments as a result. I'm sorry but I don't think it is the responsibility of the government to take care of my family. I am grateful that I get anything. The country is in debt and cuts have to be made. If someone is lucky to receive entitlements from their work why should they also get money from the government. We don't have to work for the money given by the government so why should we expect anymore than what they are willing to give. The LNP is not for big business, it encourages people to stand on their own and use the life skills they have been given. People complain about childcare so the government responds, but that isn't good enough. Stop complaining and just be grateful that we get anything!
    How long are you taking off from work when bub comes, how are you going to fund this and do you plan on breastfeeding bub?


 

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