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    I wonder what people did before this PPL was introduced, and before CCR and CCB, and before many employers even had paid maternity leave....

    This thread screams of self-entitlement.

    There, I said it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMF View Post
    I wonder what people did before this PPL was introduced, and before CCR and CCB, and before many employers even had paid maternity leave....

    This thread screams of self-entitlement.

    There, I said it.
    Maybe when working during the early years was less affordable the bulk of women stayed home, cleaned the house and cooked dinner for their husbands?

    Hey maybe that's Abbott's plan!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CMF View Post
    I wonder what people did before this PPL was introduced, and before CCR and CCB, and before many employers even had paid maternity leave....

    This thread screams of self-entitlement.

    There, I said it.
    And there it is. "In the olden days we never needed it."

    ...yes it was much better in the olden days:

    -Unwed mothers had their babies taken from them.
    -No-fault divorce didn't exist until 1975 so women stayed tied to men and their incomes
    -Generally speaking far less women went to uni and far less worked once married
    -Women were encouraged to leave the workforce once they had a baby

    It's like the good old days before unions won us the right to weekend and work safety laws.

    There. I said it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScubaGal View Post
    Oh man, on a completely different note I just found this in the Canberra Times:

    "He is also cracking down on the rort that allows the employees of not-for-profit organisations to pay food and entertainment expenses out of untaxed income without limit. The new limit will be $5000, after which their employers will face fringe benefits tax."

    So basically a key tax benefit for the not for profit sector (delivering aged care, mental health care, disability care etc) which needs measures to attract good people is being shelved as a 'rort'.

    It was one of the few things that helped NFPs to attract quality staff who could generally get higher salaries elsewhere.
    I used to work in this sector. The pay for the years at uni and the sh*t we put up with was appalling, the only thing that made it slightly competitive was salary sacrifice. Way to go libs, let's drive hard working professionals who want to make the world a better place away from the sector. makes my blood boil!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Today shoe news just said families earning over $65,000 won't be getting any childcare rebate help. Surely they have their wires crossed...
    Surely that can't be right? That's ridiculous

    Quote Originally Posted by Amber4304 View Post

    I have worked hard to get to where I am and certainly don't think that my family should be penalised because I have made the decision to have a child and have the audacity to earn moe than my partner.
    I'm trying to choose my words selectively as I don't want to offend. But if you are earning such a large income, surely you have saved for kids? My husband is the income earner and we earn around 60k a year yet have money stashed away. There is a large gap between child 2 and 3 so we had to buy everything again. We had that bought months before he was even born.

    PPL should be there to help you stay home with your child for a sizeable time. As a SAHM I know all the benefits that's why I'm home. But I'm not sure it's fair to expect you get a large income matched for months and months every baby. Children are a choice for both you and me. Surely you agree the child is also your financial responsibility? If it's that much of a 'penalty' that you can't live than maybe the next child should be rethought, just as I've had to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Maybe when working during the early years was less affordable the bulk of women stayed home, cleaned the house and cooked dinner for their husbands?

    Hey maybe that's Abbott's plan!
    Yep, but only if their husband's earn a packet. If you are like our household where we still get some FTB then we are the devil too lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScubaGal View Post
    And there it is. "In the olden days we never needed it."

    ...yes it was much better in the olden days:

    -Unwed mothers had their babies taken from them.
    -No-fault divorce didn't exist until 1975 so women stayed tied to men and their incomes
    -Generally speaking far less women went to uni and far less worked once married
    -Women were encouraged to leave the workforce once they had a baby

    It's like the good old days before unions won us the right to weekend and work safety laws.

    There. I said it.
    I'm not talking about the "olden days". These payments have only been in for way less than a decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMF View Post
    I'm not talking about the "olden days". These payments have only been in for way less than a decade.
    Well I think you'll find women a decade ago were less likely to rejoin the workforce.

    Hence the introduction of the policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExcuseMyFrench View Post
    So your partner isn't paying anything in childcare fees? It comes out only of your salary?
    Kind of besides the point. We would be paying $700 per week for our kids to be in daycare, I earn $730. While DF would contribute to daycare costs, it still evens out that we would be $30 better off each week - that is nothing when you are away from your kids all week despite DF contributing too? Our income is joint, everything is in the same pool, but no, it's not worth it.

    ETA - we fall into the income bracket of $185k+ when I work. The increase of the rebate limit to $10k helps but still does not cover the full financial year. I'd bring home $5,520 pa ($106 per week averaged).
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    Quote Originally Posted by maternidade View Post
    You know I'm pro work but my daycare as of January 1 is going to be $98 per child per day. So with 2 and discount will be $98 per day or $490 per week. To actual get to work it costs me $40 a week, plus roughly an extra $10 pw for fuel so without anything else it's $540pw just to get the kids to daycare any myself to work.
    Add tax into my minimum wage and my after tax rate is roughly $580pw. That leave $40 a week. Super contribution on minimum wage is roughly $60 a week.

    Just with those basic figure I can see why it's an unattractive package if you're only capable of earning minimum wage .
    What isn't fair in this calc is that the whole childcare fees is supported by the mother's salary.
    That doesn't make sense.

    If you were to separate from DH, you'd split the childcare fees payment. So you would only be responsible to pay $49 a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Today shoe news just said families earning over $65,000 won't be getting any childcare rebate help. Surely they have their wires crossed...
    No @VicPark families with both working parents would get 50% back uncapped.
    If one parent is a SAH then they wouldn't get anything.


 

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