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    I thought the comment that not all parents are good parents quite telling.

    "...parenting might not be for everyone and for some it can go badly wrong..."

    Maybe this is where more discussion should be had. Not everyone parents fabulously, we can try our best but sometimes even our best is not good enough.

    Thoughts???

    wifey of hubby who is always away. mother of two girls who are always amusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BH-KatiesMum View Post
    tl:dr - well I read half

    and found it theoretical garbage. Seriously ... a strong family bond and parenting disadvantages those who dont have it, so the solution is to disband it for all?

    really?

    not provide those benefits to the disadvantaged kids some other way ... but reduce all to the lowest common denominator.

    This is exactly my issue with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzys Dragon View Post
    I'm disadvantaging other kids because I read to my DD every night? I can see the philosophical point they are trying to make but I don't agree with it. I read to DD because I know it will give her an advantage developmentally. I don't see it as me personally disadvantaging other kids because I have no control over their lives. If I publically advocated for not reading to kids whilst still reading to DD then that would be different.

    Lowering the bar instead of aiming to bring those who are disadvantaged up is a terrible theory. It would have a negative impact on society. The supposed benefits of leveling the playing field wouldn't outweigh the negative in making more children disadvantaged & restricting thier development.
    I agree.

    I'm not disadvantaging other children because my children get a bedtime story every night. The parents that don't give a bedtime story are disadvantaging their own children. Moreover, is it the story or the act of spending some intimate time with your child(ren) every night that brings the advantage? Or is it both?

    Not quite sure what the objective of the discussion is...

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    Life isn't a level playing field and never was. Just ask Darwin.

    We should strive for a meritocracy and try to help break the cycle of poverty and disadvantage somehow, but to think we'll all be equal is not realistic. It's an interesting philosophical piece.

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    I read to other people's kids as well as my own... that makes me fair, yes?

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    Yea dunno. There was a theory put out there in Freakonomics (possibly Tipping Point) that it's not the act of reading that advantages kids. I think their theory was children raised in homes with book (by parents who read and would buy books) are at an advantage versus kids who are raised by parents who don't own / read books. Essentially smarter parents have smarter kids.

    There were a few other points, but that was the gist. I found it plausible more than this.

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    lol Philosophy in a nutshell :P


 

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