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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    For 1/3 of the year (when the rebate has run out) A full time working mum may pay $100-$150 per day put of pocket for every kid in daycare ...
    Are preschools really that much?

    My daughter went to preschool in 2014 and it wears $32 day, but there was no rebate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FirstTimeMummy2012 View Post
    Is this actually going ahead? Or is it just talks?
    Internally, I'm screaming. Loudly.
    if it passes at all I will be surprised, the rest of govt will block it

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Are preschools really that much?

    My daughter went to preschool in 2014 and it wears $32 day, but there was no rebate.
    most pre-schools average about 80$ day for top fees,
    Daycares anywhere from 80 - 130 but ive seen some with fees as high as 180 a day, why the hell that is right is beyond me

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2015 View Post
    Is there much of a difference in a child who has been to childcare and a child that hasn't, looks to me like there is benefits of both and that kids seems to catch up/even out in the first couple of years of primary anyway. I couldn't point to a 10 year old and know whether they were a childcare kid or not, can you?
    Maybe you can't tell with a ten year old, because JP teachers have often worked hard to bridge the gap, but in our intake of school starters this year you can absolutely tell those that have been at cc (specifically kindy which is our pre school) and those who haven't.

    You generally can. It takes a good 5 or 6 months longer for these kids to be school ready, which means in the time they are becoming school ready there is very little academic learning going on.

    Early childhood educators aren't just babysitters who care for kids so parents can do what they want. They are *educators*, and their role, particularly in social learning, is crucial. All Australian children should have the right to access this stage of schooling, otherwise it is inequitable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Are preschools really that much?

    My daughter went to preschool in 2014 and it wears $32 day, but there was no rebate.
    The preschool my kids went to was $45/day. There was no subsidy, nor would I expect one. It's just one of those many things that I expect to pay as a parent.

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    Default No more subsidised childcare for non-working parents?

    I think it's a good idea.

    Almost every SAHM I know has their kids in CC two days a week so they can 'do errands, have a break, do groceries and socialise their kids'.

    I'm sorry but I don't think this is good government spending.

    You can socialise your kids at playgroup, the park, the library. You can do your cleaning, errands and groceries while your kids are with you, like working parents do.

    Government spending has to be well targeted, paying so a SAH parent can do their groceries in peace is not money well spent.

    There needs to be universal access to Preschool (year before school starts), and isn't this partly present by the universal 15hours of preschool federal funding? There's no real need for SAH parents to use long day care for preschool.

    There needs to be provisions for at risk children, but on the whole, for healthy families, who have resources to access socialisation via other ways, if you want to use CC, you need to pay.

    We'd all like two days to ourselves a week, but expecting the government to pay for it is ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThenThereWereThree View Post
    most pre-schools average about 80$ day for top fees,
    Daycares anywhere from 80 - 130 but ive seen some with fees as high as 180 a day, why the hell that is right is beyond me
    All preschools around here are either free (through public schools but very hard to get into) or $40 maximum but they all are only school hours and terms and no rebate. The 2 preschools close to my home are community based so don't know if that is why? But they are NOT daycare centres so I'm wondering if there's some confusion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMF View Post
    The preschool my kids went to was $45/day. There was no subsidy, nor would I expect one. It's just one of those many things that I expect to pay as a parent.
    I don't expect one either. But in nsw, it was/is subsidised by state government for 4 year olds. Which is why many of the preschools now will not enrol many 3 year olds.

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    I work in Early Childhood and there are really two different systems, long day care for 0-5's is federally funded and attracts ccb/ccr, and preschool or kindy (depending on your state) which is geared towards 4-5 year olds and disadvantaged 3 year olds. Whilst preschools are state funded the federal govt does provide the states some funds under a universal access agreement, a bit like school funding. This means families can access preschool for an average of around $30 a day in NSW or less if they are low income. This money is also currently at risk!!!
    There are numerous studies which have shown great benefit to providing quality early childhood care to children in disadvantaged families (ie welfare dependant) so the govt needs to be very careful they do not stuff this up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    I don't expect one either. But in nsw, it was/is subsidised by state government for 4 year olds. Which is why many of the preschools now will not enrol many 3 year olds.
    Yep I had trouble finding a pre school for DS at 3, we pay $60 a day for 9-3.30pm at a privately run one but that includes food , I get the 50% rebate as I work part time but my 2 SAHM friends don't


 

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