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    I can't see mention of the 15hrs anywhere? Is it in this article? (Sorry might just be blind!)..

    15 hours is a ridiculous number really. I know that equates to 2 full time days, but a lot of the people I know who work part time only work 10-12 hours as they need to usually do school pick up as well, so only 6ish hours each day. I see so many pt jobs advertised for that amount of hours as well.

    How are employers meant to be able to afford to put all parent part-timers onto a minimum of 15 hours a week?

    How are currently employed part-timers meant to force their employers to give them more hours so that they can access childcare rebates?

    How are all of the job seeking patents out there meant to all apply for, and get, the limited number of 15hr+ pt jobs that are out there?

    It just makes no sense.... :/

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    Would full time study count? DS goes to childcare one day a week even in uni holidays. I am a much much better parent and human when I have one day a week to myself to get things done, but could afford it/justify the expense without any rebate

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    having worked in childcare what are my thoughts? Public primary schools are gunna have a big problem and I hope the govt has the funding to fix the slew of 4-6 year olds with educational delays or problems that have not been detected because these children are not entering formal learning and their problems are not being picked up early enough to help them, this will raise a generation of disadvantaged children

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    I would support the new measures as long as:
    - study counts as 'working'
    - subsidised care is still available for cases where a doctor recommends childcare (kids at risk, mum has PND, child has special needs)
    - preschool (4yo) is subsidised

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    Sorry for all the dumb questions, but does CCB operate the same way as CCR? As in, same amount, same options (instant rebate, claim at tax time etc.)? Is it means tested? Is it capped like CCR?

    I'm trying to work out how many people with be severely disadvantaged rather than inconvenienced sort of thing.

    Not that it matters I guess, because I agree with pretty much the general sentiment here.

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    CCB is 30% rebate, CCR is 50%. CCB is means tested I think at around 100k for a household? You get 2 days a week subsidised. After that you pay full fees.

    Pre school is a huge issue for me. With these changes I can't afford, as a SAHM, to use CC. I can handle that as I don't have PND. But pre school has become a need, not a want. What is going to happen is the children of working mothers will go to pre school, the children of SAHM's mostly won't. I see that as discriminatory.

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    I found out my daughters daycare has over a 3 page waitlists for her age ( 15-30 months). The daycare is at 98% capacity ( 2% being kindy age). This is a suburban daycare! As a working mother we found it very difficult to find places. The only reason why we got into our current place is because we put her name down when she was a tiny bub, and we wanted to start in the January session.
    I understand non working parents wanting places but I believe priority should be given to working parents and this assists in that process.

    From the snippets I've heard I don't think many working families will be better off anyway. And With the new framework coming in January 1 ( with ratio changes) fees are increasing too. I've been told ours will rise $8 per day.

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    Definitely a play for votes. I too can see Pro's and Con's to this reform though. I agree, that not everyone should qualify for The CCR and CCB. I agree that the CCR and CCB should be combined. That's about where it ends. The biggest Con for me is; for those working part time or casually, will their children be squeezed out of the child care system? What about parents actively seeking work but can't find it? It's extremely difficult to find work in my area and I feel very strongly that the children of these families should not miss out on the opportunity of going to Child Care or Pre School because their subsidies have been cut and they can no longer afford it. Have you ever tried looking for work and going to numerous interviews with kids? I haven't, but I can imagine it would be extremely difficult. Not to mention the added financial stress that already burdens you. The idea of 'the more you work, the more you get' sickens me. There is just not enough Full Time work out there for everyone.
    I read in the article below that if the reform goes through, it won't be implemented for another two years. So at least those affected will have time to work out a viable solution.

    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/childc...01-1my1df.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    CCB is 30% rebate, CCR is 50%. CCB is means tested I think at around 100k for a household? You get 2 days a week subsidised. After that you pay full fees.

    Pre school is a huge issue for me. With these changes I can't afford, as a SAHM, to use CC. I can handle that as I don't have PND. But pre school has become a need, not a want. What is going to happen is the children of working mothers will go to pre school, the children of SAHM's mostly won't. I see that as discriminatory.
    Thank you for this. I am too tired to use The Google atm.

    So, in a nutshell, this affects families with a SAHP earning under about 100K. Well that would have to be a lot of families.

    I totally agree with you. It is inequitable - surprise, surprise. It also ignores the fact that some families may have newborns at home.

    And, worst of all, it totally disregards the mountains of research that concludes that early childhood education is a fundamental factor in determining success in future schooling. This is not meant to put down SAHPs, but to acknowledge the essential role that early childhood teachers play in a child's life.

    So depressing :-(


 

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