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    Quote Originally Posted by monnie24 View Post
    I'm stressing about this. My kids get rebate and I'm on disability pension. So I won't get rebate? So even people studying.

    I actually have anxiety 😳
    I dont think it affects people who are exempt from looking for work requirements based on being on disability or carers pensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    I make phone calls during my lunch break, before I start work or after work. I can call in to supermarket before picking my kids up. I'm a teacher, so have to do everything outside of class time, even toilet breaks.
    I read teachers aren't allowed to have coffee in class now - that must suck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    to even break even to pay for the CCR they recieve tax wise, women need to be earning around 50+k a year. Most working mums I know are not earning more than that. It could be argued that in these cases the tax payer is funding these women to top up the family income. They are receiving the rebates but not paying the tax. Where is the line? If this is about $$$ do we only fund CCR for women paying over 7500 a year in tax? Otherwise you can argue they are a drain just like the sahm's getting ccb.
    I haven't read all the replies so might be repeating what others have already said- but there is so much more to women's participation in the work force than just their tax contributions. More participation in the workforce increases productivity and raises GDP, during that time women are earning super, earning an income that then has a flow-on effect to other areas of the economy via more spending, less reliance on government payments or concessions, employers gain the benefit of retaining skilled/trained/educated employees, and promotes equality for women in the workplace and increases the likelihood of women/parents returning full time (and paying full tax) in the future and maintaining their career prospects through the child rearing years.

    It is far too simplistic to look at it as tax in-tax out.

    It also sucks that this is so much a women's issue instead of a "parent's issue" - imagine if as mum's we could just skip off to work and leave the men to sort out all this childcare crap!! 😉

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adoralicious View Post
    I haven't read all the replies so might be repeating what others have already said- but there is so much more to women's participation in the work force than just their tax contributions. More participation in the workforce increases productivity and raises GDP, during that time women are earning super, earning an income that then has a flow-on effect to other areas of the economy via more spending, less reliance on government payments or concessions, employers gain the benefit of retaining skilled/trained/educated employees, and promotes equality for women in the workplace and increases the likelihood of women/parents returning full time (and paying full tax) in the future and maintaining their career prospects through the child rearing years.

    It is far too simplistic to look at it as tax in-tax out.

    It also sucks that this is so much a women's issue instead of a "parent's issue" - imagine if as mum's we could just skip off to work and leave the men to sort out all this childcare crap!! ������
    Yes I know that. If you had read the replies you would have read I said this:

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    I think you've misunderstood me. I 100% support rebates for working mums, and for them to stay in the work force for all the reasons NotetoSelf outlined and more. I'm playing Devil's Advocate to the idea that SAHM's shouldn't get rebates bc it's too expensive given they don't work. My argument is if the govt is coming from an economically rationalist POV, that mums earning under that amount are also a drain. I'm not saying I believe that. Just that if we are going to apply one rule to SAHm's then applying it to working mums should only be fair. If this is about saving money as Abbott says it is. Then maybe the rule should be that you only get the rebate if you pay over 7500 in tax.
    Of course it's a simplistic view. Bc that is how the govt is coming at it. At a purely fiscal POV. That's really my point. If Abbott wants to concentrate on the fact it should essentially be a pay as you use system, then many working mums would be considered 'undeserving' too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I read teachers aren't allowed to have coffee in class now - that must suck!
    I don't drink tea or coffee but I think as long as the top is covered then it's ok?

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    Something needs to be done about availability in some areas. I don't know if this is the way to go. I think it has some merits.

    But if they want to save money or increase revenue, then they should start here

    http://m.smh.com.au/federal-politics...29-1mw2zp.html

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    I saw today TA is guaranteeing the universal access to Preschool program........

    EVERY four-year-old will be guaranteed continuing access to preschool in the May Budget under a new $840 million funding deal.
    Prime Minister Tony ­Abbott will announce today the universal access scheme offering up to 15 hours of preschool will not be axed as feared. The funding was set to end after 2015.
    For the first time, federal funding for preschools will also be indexed to inflation, delivering an extra $30 million in 2016 and 2017.
    While preschool and kinder classes in the year before school starts are not compulsory for children they are regarded as critical stepping stone. Studies suggest children who attend preschool and kinder programs outperform those who do not in later years.
    Parents and childcare operators had feared the universal access funding that was due to run out at the end of the year would not be renewed, sparking a public backlash.
    But the Budget razor gang has now agreed to guarantee the funding until 2017.
    “Today’s announcement provides parents and preschools with certainty,” Mr Abbott said. The new agreement will guarantee funding for 600 hours a year, but the deal will only run for two years. Since 2013, the universal access scheme has pledged to deliver access to up to 15 hours per week of preschool, for 40 weeks of the year before they attend school. Childcare operators have warned that ultimately an ongoing funding agreement must be reache

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    That's a relief.
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    Do you think they will extend the funding beyond 2017 as well?

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    So the budget will be released soon but when will the actual changes come into place? Will it be right away or in a 6 months or a year?

    Sorry but niave at how these things work.


 

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