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    Hi to the newbies!
    Rarah its a tough one as to whether doing PGD first is a better idea or not as I think you're only 35 right? Most of us here are over 40 and using donor eggs due to age related egg quality (aside from a couple of us). I think you have to ask yourself if you have it in you financially and mentally to continue with OE... You don't have the time constraints like say...me lol at 43.
    I still had an OE embie when I went to cpt, but I just wanted the best odds of having a baby so I chose not to use it. Its really a personal decision x

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    Default Egg Donation in South Africa #9

    Question: how do you pass off SA as just a holiday to all the workmates etc who you don't want to let know about the donor/ivf thing? Especially if you have to go back for a second try? I just had a lovely bloke at work telling me that u really should consider Botswana and Namibia over cape town . what do you say to that.... Gee thanks but no thanks? I only want to see capetown?
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    I didn't tell anyone but family/close friends that we were going...just said we were spending 2 weeks at our farm.
    When are you trying to get there? Maybe look at what's on around then? There's a puppet festival in Aug hehe... Seriously though cpt is a great spot for a 2 week holiday ... Maybe say you want to stay out of the malaria zone... Say you're interesting in shark cage diving, great food and wine, whale watching and table mountain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by emski72 View Post
    I didn't tell anyone but family/close friends that we were going...just said we were spending 2 weeks at our farm.
    When are you trying to get there? Maybe look at what's on around then? There's a puppet festival in Aug hehe... Seriously though cpt is a great spot for a 2 week holiday ... Maybe say you want to stay out of the malaria zone... Say you're interesting in shark cage diving, great food and wine, whale watching and table mountain!
    That actually is all the stuff we are interested in except DP can do the cage five on.his own ! Unfortunately my work colleagues need to know I'm overseas as I'm an IT support person and tend to get a lot of calls even when on holidays so they need to know I'm out of range. I hate having to lie to keep my private business private. At least I can honesty say I fell pregnant on holiday in SA and yes wasn't it a miracle at my age lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rarah11 View Post
    Hi ladies

    I hope you don't mind if I join in, I've just done what I think is my 10th transfer (looks like AF has arrived I know the signs well enough to know is not worked). I've had 2 pregnancies both unsuccessful and I'm thinking DE will be my next option (I've not done PGD yet (FS suggested) but as I have had so many unsuccessful transfers i might just pay $5k to tell me what I already know) and would rather use the money towards something I feel more confident will work. I don't have any NK cell issues so no idea what the issue is, I had two good looking blasts transferred this cycle so maybe second opinion? Any words of advice? did you do pgd before DE. Did you gets blasts?

    I would just like to say that this thread has given me the positivity I need to continue - thank you.
    Rarah11, what have you been tested for aside from elevated NK cells? Was it a biopsy for NK cells or a blood test? Has your partner had any tests such as for DNA fragmentation? Do you know if your losses were due to chromosomal issues?

    I don't want to discourage you from donor cycling in SA because it is fantastic and brought us the bub we desperately wanted. But at your age and producing blasts I'd want to be totally sure that moving to DE was the only option. Maybe it might be worth a second opinion from another FS here.

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    Default Egg Donation in South Africa #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Rarah11 View Post
    Hi ladies

    I hope you don't mind if I join in, I've just done what I think is my 10th transfer (looks like AF has arrived I know the signs well enough to know is not worked). I've had 2 pregnancies both unsuccessful and I'm thinking DE will be my next option (I've not done PGD yet (FS suggested) but as I have had so many unsuccessful transfers i might just pay $5k to tell me what I already know) and would rather use the money towards something I feel more confident will work. I don't have any NK cell issues so no idea what the issue is, I had two good looking blasts transferred this cycle so maybe second opinion? Any words of advice? did you do pgd before DE. Did you gets blasts?

    I would just like to say that this thread has given me the positivity I need to continue - thank you.
    Welcome Rarah!
    At 38 I am one of the younger of the tribe here (with our first DE cycle in SA I was 37). We didn't do PGD prior to making the move to DE. In our previous 6 OE cycles we too got blasts to Tx but none ever resulted in a BFP. (We tried different protocols and also threw in immune protocols, growth hormones, DHEA, melatonin etc - all to no avail). DH did all the available testing including FISH, SCSA etc which shed little light on a solution - he had slightly elevated FIsH results but nothing major.

    After 5 cycles with our FS we sought a second opinion.
    We proceeded with our 6th cycle (affectionately known as the 'kitchen sink cycle) which resulted in nothing to transfer (our worst result despite 13 eggs at PU). This cycle and advice from our 'second opinion' specialist - Wazza - was our catalyst to move to DE.

    We too didn't want to waste anymore money on what already felt like a 'dead end'..

    I understand some might say because of your age to keep persisting but sometimes you just know it's time to move on..

    It took us two goes in SA but we are now 16 weeks with twins...
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    Hi ladies. Just wanted to let you know that I gave birth to a beautiful baby girl last Monday 4/5. We are at home & slowly getting into a routine. The last few days have been a blur. But we are so in love with her. Going to Cape Town was the best thing we did. Good luck everyone - ImageUploadedByThe Bub Hub1431414315.511359.jpgit is so worth it.

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    Huge Congratulations Luca!! She is adorable!!

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    Hi Emski
    I did have the same question on my previous trip to SA as I was undecided on whether to transfer 1 or 2 for the same reasons. I had 6 frozen in 3 batches of 2 .CFC did advise that if I chose to only transfer 1, they would re freeze the 2nd. I ended up transferring 2 so didn't ask any further questions regarding the quality of the refrozen embryo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leyshoja View Post
    Question: how do you pass off SA as just a holiday to all the workmates etc who you don't want to let know about the donor/ivf thing? Especially if you have to go back for a second try? I just had a lovely bloke at work telling me that u really should consider Botswana and Namibia over cape town . what do you say to that.... Gee thanks but no thanks? I only want to see capetown?
    Welcome Leyshoja!

    We told colleagues and friends we wanted to do a safari (which we did on our first trip to SA) and that DH wanted to do cage diving ... On our second trip we just used the explanation that the first trip had offered an incredible insight into the country and we found so many more things we wanted to visit & do... Eg the garden route drive, wineries, restaurants, more diving etc

    When some offered 'advice ' on alternate places to visit we just smiled and nodded and said we would look into their suggestions..
    If they were really persistent we just said we wanted to stay away from Ebola areas 😁 - that usually shut them up 😉

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