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    I let my 20 month old watch one episode a day of dora. I watch it with her and sing along with the songs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilypily View Post
    My son started talking Spanish after Dora. I had no idea what he was talking about lol
    i know a child who would count to 10 in spanish, knew several words etc.
    people were like omg isnt she clever, she watched dora 24/7

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    actually this is better as a PM
    Last edited by Lilahh; 26-04-2015 at 10:02. Reason: realised It was off topic

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    Default 16 month old obsessed with watching TV!! Help!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lilahh View Post
    @DT75 it's very frustrating when people enter debates about research without actually having read the research, but rather just go off what PP have said. Vicpark only read the abstract of the article, she didn't read the entire article, which is fair enough it's very long. If she had of she would have seen the following findings, which clearly indicate that TV for under twos causes problems.

    I quoted what the article said:





    Ergo, "It's an extremely convincing read that screen time for under 2's causes language and cognition problems."

    You said that me saying the above is "awful". How can summarising data be "awful"? When you said that me re-stating data is "awful" it can't really be interpreted any other way except as defensive. I'm sorry if you felt as though I was saying something about your family and their TV habits and I am very sorry you thought I was being awful. I really just wanted to share information that I found interesting to help inform others. I thought I was being helpful. I didnt think there was anything awful about that.
    While I agree with you that research has shown that screen time before 2 CORRELATES with poorer language outcomes (and I have read the research last year for work) please be careful throwing around the word CAUSES. The research doesn't prove causation. The latest finding actually suggests that the covariant at play is the amount the child is actually spoken too. In other words increased screen time can lead to decreased conversation which can lead to poorer language outcomes. Of course until that's adequately tested using structural equation modelling, or another statistical method that can test directionality in relationships, it's still just a hypothesis.
    Anyway the main point I want to make is no one factor will solely determine the outcomes of a child. If you don't want your child to watch tv, good. If your child watches tv and you're worried it'll impact negatively on their language outcomes, make a conscious effort to talk to them more. If you aren't worried, good.

    Eta - caps for emphasis. Not shouting, I promise. 😊
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    I haven't read all the replies, I got to "Its not BS, it's Scientific research"
    Here is my Scientific research.
    All of my children have had unlimited screen time from day dot.
    I have a now 5 year old who was walking by 11 months, toilet trained by 22months, could say his ABC's and count to 10 by 2yrs, knew all his letters and numbers and colours and shapes by 3, could spell his name by 3.5 and write it by 4. Is now at prep and ahead of majority of his peers.
    I have a now nearly 4 year old girl who was walking at 9 months, speaking in sentences at 18 months and completely toilet trained herself at the same age. Knows all her colours, and shapes and her ABC's, can spell her name, and is most likely starting prep next year at 4.5 because she is ready.
    My littlest has been slightly behind thanks to ear issues, but walked at 9 months and since his operation has caught up very quickly and his speech is now pretty much on par with any average 22 months old.
    So my scientific research is that screen time has had absolutely no negative effect on the development of my children

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    Wondering how much other scientific research people dismiss.

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    Default 16 month old obsessed with watching TV!! Help!!

    I don't dismiss it, I just dispute the accuracy of this research. I think there are far too many factors to take into consideration than simply TV is bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BettyV View Post
    While I agree with you that research has shown that screen time before 2 CORRELATES with poorer language outcomes (and I have read the research last year for work) please be careful throwing around the word CAUSES. The research doesn't prove causation. The latest finding actually suggests that the covariant at play is the amount the child is actually spoken too. In other words increased screen time can lead to decreased conversation which can lead to poorer language outcomes. Of course until that's adequately tested using structural equation modelling, or another statistical method that can test directionality in relationships, it's still just a hypothesis.
    Anyway the main point I want to make is no one factor will solely determine the outcomes of a child. If you don't want your child to watch tv, good. If your child watches tv and you're worried it'll impact negatively on their language outcomes, make a conscious effort to talk to them more. If you aren't worried, good.

    Eta - caps for emphasis. Not shouting, I promise. 😊
    This was what I was going to say. There are a lot of correlations but no causation shown. I need to add that TV in no way causes ADHD. It is caused by the brain being unable to inhibit behaviours. When research shows a correlation between amount of screen time and diagnosis of ADHD what we are probably seeing is parents using TV because the child is difficult to manage, not use of TV causing ADHD.

    OP - I don't know if this will help you but my niece always melted down if there was TV in the morning but was fine if it was on in the afternoon. Perhaps you could try keeping it to later in the day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BettyV View Post
    While I agree with you that research has shown that screen time before 2 CORRELATES with poorer language outcomes (and I have read the research last year for work) please be careful throwing around the word CAUSES. The research doesn't prove causation. The latest finding actually suggests that the covariant at play is the amount the child is actually spoken too. In other words increased screen time can lead to decreased conversation which can lead to poorer language outcomes. Of course until that's adequately tested using structural equation modelling, or another statistical method that can test directionality in relationships, it's still just a hypothesis.
    Anyway the main point I want to make is no one factor will solely determine the outcomes of a child. If you don't want your child to watch tv, good. If your child watches tv and you're worried it'll impact negatively on their language outcomes, make a conscious effort to talk to them more. If you aren't worried, good.

    Eta - caps for emphasis. Not shouting, I promise. ������
    i see the confusion, I was referring to the studies listed that were longitudinal, where they took the same kids and tested them multiple times. In that instance the research is not correlational, and can conclude cause and effect.

    @cazhazkids your experiences are important but they are anecdotal, not experimental evidence. That's why the studies test thousands of kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CazHazKidz View Post
    I don't dismiss it, I just dispute the accuracy of this research. I think there are far too many factors to take into consideration than simply TV is bad.
    Wasn't just talking about you.

    many people have dismissed it. Even people who claim they only deal in "scientific research" which I find interesting.


 

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