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    If you really don't want to vaccinate and that is your choice can you not make other sacrifices so you don't have to return to work? We don't get any support from government so I have no clue how much is involved.

    Is it a set amount or a sliding scale based on income and number of dependents?

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    Default Parents who don't vaccinate their children are set to lose FTA after the next...

    I don't really know how it works either as it's the first time for us but at the moment it is keeping us afloat paying for two houses.

    Sure, we could tell our 11 year old who was just chosen out of the whole of Brisbane to go to Spain on the u12 soccer team that he can't go, but that's not going to happen, im not going to steal his dreams because my body is faulty!😓

    We have already had to make a lot of sacrifices due to me not working, this was not part of the plan. I hate myself so much for being sick.

    I just can't read anymore. I support all human beings even if we have different beliefs, I am clearly terrified out of my brain for my gorgeous gorgeous family and people can still be harsh and not even try to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ffrenchknickers View Post
    I don't really know how it works either as it's the first time for us but at the moment it is keeping us afloat paying for two houses.

    Sure, we could tell our 11 year old who was just chosen out of the whole of Brisbane to go to Spain on the u12 soccer team that he can't go, but that's not going to happen, im not going to steal his dreams because my body is faulty!

    We have already had to make a lot of sacrifices due to me not working, this was not part of the plan. I hate myself so much for being sick.

    I just can't read anymore. I support all human beings even if we have different beliefs, I am clearly terrified out of my brain for my gorgeous gorgeous family and people can still be harsh and not even try to understand.
    Then perhaps you need to have some counselling to get over your fears? If medical professionals have advised that vaccinations are the best thing for your children, then you should strongly consider those facts, and not let your fears interfere with your children's health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ffrenchknickers View Post
    I don't really know how it works either as it's the first time for us but at the moment it is keeping us afloat paying for two houses.

    Sure, we could tell our 11 year old who was just chosen out of the whole of Brisbane to go to Spain on the u12 soccer team that he can't go, but that's not going to happen, im not going to steal his dreams because my body is faulty!😓

    We have already had to make a lot of sacrifices due to me not working, this was not part of the plan. I hate myself so much for being sick.

    I just can't read anymore. I support all human beings even if we have different beliefs, I am clearly terrified out of my brain for my gorgeous gorgeous family and people can still be harsh and not even try to understand.
    Then sell 1 of your houses & reduce your expediture.

    Exactly what is it that you're "terrified" of?? Honestly...I'm sorry to say, but you sound like a bit of a "Drama Queen" Luv...that's how your posts are coming accross from where I'm sitting.
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    I see that you have a big fear of vaccinating, &it is unfortunate that youre going through financial difficulties. At te end of the day, 'vaccine damage' is generally a fear mongering term used by anti vax websites. I only know one anti vaxxer in person, and unfortunately she misunderstands vaccines and the science behind them greatly. Is there a health professional you could trust & speak to about your specific fears? Vaccines have been proven by research many many times over to be both safe and effective. Good luck in your journey, I hope you can find peace with your decision either way.

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    No one is forcing anyone to do anything. We live in a free country and thankfully we don't have a gun forced to our heads to do things, like so many other women in other countries do on a daily basis.

    The government pay for our vaccinations. It's not free, the government pays for it. So it makes sense that the government can decide what rules go around vaccinations. They are compensating those that choose to vaccinate, and that is the government's decision and point of view that a majority of Australians support.

    Go to any third world country and see just how many children are suffering and dying from vaccine preventable diseases, because they do not have a government that provides free vaccination and healthcare, and/or lack resources to do so. They aren't complaining about losing benefits. They're tripping over themselves at the chance to receive a lifesaving vaccination. It's gut-wrenching.

    We live in a country where we've had free vaccination in place for so long that we rarely see these diseases in our society. It scares the cr@p out of me that some of these diseases could again be reintroduced and spread in epidemic proportions to those vaccinated and unvaccinated alike, because we are in danger of losing our 'herd' protection that has been in place due to widespread vaccination in this country.

    I do agree that everyone should have the right to choose. But I think it's easy to lose perspective when we live in such a sheltered country with free healthcare that we forget the bigger picture.

    I empathise with those that have had adverse reactions to a vaccine. It's extremely rare however I am sure that does not feel that way for those unfortunate enough to experience it first hand. Just as I empathise with those that have had complications with other medical procedures, babies that are diagnosed with cancer and other heartbreaking diagnosis. Bad things happen to good people, it's no one's fault.

    I guess the point of my post is really no one is forcing anyone to do anything. This is the country we live in, and perhaps from time to time we need to remember that not everyone in this world is so fortunate and be thankful for what we have, rather than complain about what we don't.

    No offence intended to anyone, just food for thought.

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    Default Parents who don't vaccinate their children are set to lose FTA after the next...

    As I said. Over 16 years of parenting we have spoken to probably more people than the majority of parents. My fears are not unfounded, people are damaged by vaccines. Im not going to post again as the blatant disregard for another family and another mothers feelings is just horrible. So glad I decided to come back to bub hub today after receiving the letter. Nice to see nothing has changed around here😞

    And no, I'm not that stupid to be sucked into fear mongering anti vax sites. Another massive assumption by people that just will never even try to understand.

    Those who know me know I have a massive heart for people EVERYWHERE. I volunteer, I donate, I fight for refugee freedom, I lend a hand to anyone, ANYONE who needs it even when it's been to my detriment and I ALWAYS accept that people have beliefs and feelings different to my own and that does not make them less worthy. I am thankful EVERYDAY for being fortunate enough to be born in this country. Every.single.day. I don't feel I am more entitled than the next person. I will never, ever lose site of how lucky we are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ffrenchknickers View Post
    As I said. Over 16 years of parenting we have spoken to probably more people than the majority of parents. My fears are not unfounded, people are damaged by vaccines. Im not going to post again as the blatant disregard for another family and another mothers feelings is just horrible. So glad I decided to come back to bub hub today after receiving the letter. Nice to see nothing has changed around here😞
    Oh honey - this topic tends to get firey. I think some posts have not been that nice to you.

    I do not know anyone who had a severe reaction to a vaccine. So for me the decision is an easier one.

    The government goes by numbers. There are a lot more people that will be severely affected by VPD's who cannot vaccinate so to protect them there is going to be a 'blanket l' solution.

    I cannot imagine how I would feel seeing someone affected by a vaccine - especially if it was a family member. Which is why I am not going to judge you at all.

    Hugs. And I do hope things work out for you. Do you have other options as you are sick (i.e. disability cover? Disability pension for a while?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlondeinBrisvegas View Post
    Then sell 1 of your houses & reduce your expediture.

    Exactly what is it that you're "terrified" of?? Honestly...I'm sorry to say, but you sound like a bit of a "Drama Queen" Luv...that's how your posts are coming accross from where I'm sitting.
    Omg I was leaving and just saw this. Im sharing my feeling omg. Seriously!! Our house is on the market ffs but unfortunately it is in a 400 person town where it could take 10 years to sell (no exaggeration.). We moved to the city for a better life for our children and for the sake of my health and unfortunately things took a bad turn, it won't be forever.

    Drama queen for being scared for the 5 most precious beings in the world to me? I am sharing my fears, you have none? I was upset before but that was just so rude 😞
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnygirl79 View Post
    No one is forcing anyone to do anything. We live in a free country and thankfully we don't have a gun forced to our heads to do things, like so many other women in other countries do on a daily basis.

    The government pay for our vaccinations. It's not free, the government pays for it. So it makes sense that the government can decide what rules go around vaccinations. They are compensating those that choose to vaccinate, and that is the government's decision and point of view that a majority of Australians support.

    Go to any third world country and see just how many children are suffering and dying from vaccine preventable diseases, because they do not have a government that provides free vaccination and healthcare, and/or lack resources to do so. They aren't complaining about losing benefits. They're tripping over themselves at the chance to receive a lifesaving vaccination. It's gut-wrenching.

    We live in a country where we've had free vaccination in place for so long that we rarely see these diseases in our society. It scares the cr@p out of me that some of these diseases could again be reintroduced and spread in epidemic proportions to those vaccinated and unvaccinated alike, because we are in danger of losing our 'herd' protection that has been in place due to widespread vaccination in this country.

    I do agree that everyone should have the right to choose. But I think it's easy to lose perspective when we live in such a sheltered country with free healthcare that we forget the bigger picture.

    I empathise with those that have had adverse reactions to a vaccine. It's extremely rare however I am sure that does not feel that way for those unfortunate enough to experience it first hand. Just as I empathise with those that have had complications with other medical procedures, babies that are diagnosed with cancer and other heartbreaking diagnosis. Bad things happen to good people, it's no one's fault.

    I guess the point of my post is really no one is forcing anyone to do anything. This is the country we live in, and perhaps from time to time we need to remember that not everyone in this world is so fortunate and be thankful for what we have, rather than complain about what we don't.

    No offence intended to anyone, just food for thought.
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