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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    If you haven't read the book, how can you say the Author says this?

    Genuinely confused.
    You're not genuinely confused at all because we've had this conversation on more than one occasion.

    Have you read The Bible? I've heard you more than once criticize Christianity.

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    Just depends on what fits with how you want to parent. It was given to me when pregnant and I read the whole book. I know a few people who follow it to the button and have great sleepers.

    It wasn't for me because I prefer to be instinctual and strict routines and feeding times weren't right for me
    or my baby. I just felt I wanted to keep baby close to me and feed on demand, controlled crying or letting baby whinge just didn't sit right with me. I also am not one for strict sleep training, especially from just weeks old.

    I think there is criticism towards the book because it just goes against the way some people like to parent. That ok. Everyone has a different style and just has to do what works for them.

    I felt that the main gist of it was to get baby on your schedule. I really think babies are all individuals so the same things don't work for them all. I don't like the idea that they all need to fit into a particular routine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busy-Bee View Post
    You're not genuinely confused at all because we've had this conversation on more than one occasion.

    Have you read The Bible? I've heard you more than once criticize Christianity.
    I am genuinely confused.

    I went to church this weekend. When was the last time you practiced SOS?
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    @VicPark It's a good point you make about re-reading a book later on. I have done this a few times when I've had moments where I am unsure and SOS and others have some advice that has been useful!

    I should add that it's worth looking a what edition you have as many books, particularly concerning babies, are frequently updated to be consistent with WHO guidelines etc. some older books may in essence have good advice but recommend "solutions" that might be outdated and even unsafe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementine Grace View Post

    I felt that the main gist of it was to get baby on your schedule.
    This wasn't my take on it - although I can see how you came to that conclusion. I read it as being of help to parents like myself who are pretty useless at reading bubs signs!

    Makes it easier to guesstimate what bub needs if bub is cranky - so you end up meeting bubs needs before bub has a chance to squark.

    That was my take.

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    I never CC'ed and my kids slept through at 6 and 8 weeks. Both demand fed, both raised with child centred beliefs. I think it's a misnomer to say those that don't sleep train have crappy sleepers.

    I think Clementine hit the nail on the head as to why so many are offended by TH. Bc some of us believe a tiny baby shouldn't have the job of fitting around grown adults to make their lives easier. Rather it's our job to tend to their needs, especially when they are so small.

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    I think this (and I'm sure someone will know the answer) is a tizzie hall quote from the original version of sos.

    For me, I'd never take any advice from someone who thinks babies vomit to get attention. I don't believe babies manipulate you. That's just me though and I know others will disagree.

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    Ok, I'll play. If you want to get technical I didn't say TH actually says this, my post was:
    Quote Originally Posted by Busy-Bee View Post
    I haven't read her books or website but I would be very weary of anyone who suggests, "if you do ABC then your baby will do XYZ". The spectrum of normal behaviour and sleep for babies is huge and none of them will have had the benefit of reading T Hall.
    So you've converted from vocal atheist to observant Christian? Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementine Grace View Post
    I think this (and I'm sure someone will know the answer) is a tizzie hall quote from the original version of sos.

    For me, I'd never take any advice from someone who thinks babies vomit to get attention. I don't believe babies manipulate you. That's just me though and I know others will disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementine Grace View Post
    I think this (and I'm sure someone will know the answer) is a tizzie hall quote from the original version of sos.

    For me, I'd never take any advice from someone who thinks babies vomit to get attention. I don't believe babies manipulate you. That's just me though and I know others will disagree.

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