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    That's a good e2 number. They say that around 1,000 is a mature follicle, so the little ones are probably producing e2 as well, so I reckon that one follie is ripening well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefsgirl View Post
    Congrats @Fudge09. I second @BlondeinBrisvegas we are here for you and vent all you need. Don't worry about cheering us on, you have enough on your plate at the moment. Just focus on sending lots of sticky vibes to bubba and trying to stay calm through all the emotional turmoil you are going through at the moment. I think mediation is a great idea.
    @Killarneygirl congrats on some great numbers! Did you have one or two put back in? Fx next one is doubling nicely.

    Hi to everyone else👋
    I had one frozen embryo from a very disappointing fresh cycle put back in. Doesn't look so disappointing now though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killarneygirl View Post
    I had one frozen embryo from a very disappointing fresh cycle put back in. Doesn't look so disappointing now though!
    There's hope for me yet woot woot !! Good to hear great news on a poor embie ! They are all individuals too I suppose lol

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    Oh crap Tuxcat! Sorry you're disappointed again. One follicle hey. This ride is hell. Just looking at your signature, this is your 8th stim right? You're a strong lady to do that many. Have any of your FS's indicated how many would be a reasonable number to go for? After 5 I hit the wall as you've seen by my recent comments. More about that later....

    Bongley, all seems to be moving right along for you with the Tassie donor. Good luck.

    Winsor, glad to hear you are recovered from the surgery and ready to move forward. Weight loss is always a bonus!

    Leisylou, too early! You're not out yet.

    Leyshoja, I know you've been through the damn wringer with this. Hoping you can stay strong and just put one foot infront of the other and you'll get through this transfer.

    Blonde thanks for your continual support!

    AFM, we just got home from our trip to Sydney. Had our second opinion with MB from Genea. We're both glad we went. He gave us plenty of his time and was very thorough. There's not a lot he would do differently from our original specialist but there are differences in the process involved between our original branch of Genea and Sydney. He believes the problem to be with the embryos however would like my endometriosis to be investigated and possibly treated so he has referred me to a colleague for that. He was pretty straight forward about the relationship between ivf success and the number of attempts not being linear, which I already knew. He wouldn't put a limit on the number of further cycles I could do but said if he had anything to ad it would show results within a couple of cycles. There are always those anecdotal stories of so and so who did 10 stims and it finally worked but hard data disagrees with that. I'm at the upper end statistically of how many stims it should take to work. So no big shock and no lightbulb moment but very worthwhile. I'll get my endo looked at. Then at most we'll do 2 stims, end of story. This fits with my original plan of stopping by my 43rd birthday. If we do go with a couple more stims I'm gonna get really good at that commute.

    Fudge do you have an update? Hoping you're sorting things out.

    And no Emski I haven't heard from Butterfly but have wondered about her many times.

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    @Skyler Sounds most definitely like your trip was very worthwhile Has it been a while since you had your Endo checked?? all is well with that, if not, I guess they can remove/treat it with drugs to stop it growing?? Will it be a Hysteroscopy you have done?? Always best to cover all bases then at least you know for sure your oven is in tip top condition and full working order

    Am glad to hear you're considering doing 2 more Cycles Luv. If he reckons the benefits will be seen within those Cycles, then if you and DH are up for it, I say give it a go At least he's honest about that and not trotting out the usual BS some of them do

    It's always difficult when it's an embryo quality issue (which was our problem). Wonder what else he plans on doing/trying?? HGH or have you already done it?? Time will tell I guess I'm sure you and DH must be worn out, so have a good sleep tonight Luv

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    Thanks Blonde,
    He's sending me for a sonovaginogram, it's a trans vaginal ultrasound that checks for endo in the most crucial spot that affects implantation, the part between the vagina and rectum. The last time I had my endo treated was 2 years ago via laparoscopy. But the Gyno did not get it all. The FS today was none too impressed with that!
    Also he's not keen on icsi which is great for me because I had a couple of eggs lysed by icsi last time. As opposed to what my other clinic insisted on, this new FS will do PGD without icsi which we are happy with. DH has above average sperm.
    He reckons the embies are the prob because of my age. He said if I was only getting one or 2 eggs we would not pursue anything but seeing as I've been getting on average 14 eggs per cycle, it's worth doing 2 more. Mentally it's hard for us as we've started the grieving process. But we'll sleep on it. You're right, a lot of FS's trot out a lot of unproven stuff so I'm appreciative that he was straight with us. He did not suggest hgh, I asked my old FS about that and she said I'm not a candidate because I'm a high responder. It's more beneficial for low responders apparently. But I might bring it up with him next time. Night night.
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    @Skyler A sonovaginogram..Well, won't that be fun!! It's all clear for you Luv considering it's the area that's most important in terms of ET.

    Have you ever done the traditional IVF before on any of your Cycles or always just ICSI'd?? I had a couple of eggs that literally exploded when they were ICSI'd on one of my earlier Cycles, so kind of know that feeling of losing them before they even have a chance If the eggs are a bit fragile then leaving them to have a party in the petri dish with DH's sperm might well be the way to go!!

    As to the HGH, I used it for egg quality only as I'm a normal responder. I didn't think it was used for trying to increase egg numbers?? You can always get onto the myriad supplements if you're of a mind to if you aren't already doing that/have done that?? DHEA would be out for you because you are a high responder, but what about Melatonin for egg quality and all the rest of them??

    I understand about beginning the grieving process Luv. That's exactly where DP and I were going into my 5th Cycle. We had 2 vials of his frozen TESA'd sperm on ice and decided that we didn't want to waste them so committed ourselves to 2 more Cycles and that would be that. We went into the Cycle with no real expectations, more like just going through the motions to be honest while we started the process of grieving and coming to terms that our family would consist of us and our 2 pets.

    It's a difficult decision to make whether to keep on going for a couple more tries or just call it a day. It's so mentally/emotionally taxing. Only you and your DH know what your limits are Luv

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    Hi everyone,

    Waving hello to everyone and where they're at in their cycle.

    Skylar you FS sounds really helpful, it's important to be straight with you.
    I'm glad you have a plan, at least you can plan your life a bit more.

    AFM, auntie flo arrived, 2 days early. That gives me a 25 day cycle, to top off the 18 day one two months ago, the month before our second transfer.

    I'm really scared I'm entering perimenopause, but what can I do about it.

    Finally seeing my doctor on Friday, annoying I've missed the chance to fit in another cycle but oh well. It's our last so hope it doesn't make a big difference.

    I've mentally prepared for this not to work and just trying to get my head around long term foster care now. We won't start the training for that till next year, as I want to get off the procreation roller coaster and have some time to grieve.

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    @Luckyme1, don't write yourself off with perimenopause yet, lots of things can stuff your cycle up. All those drugs can't be good for us.
    AFM, started the progesterone today in preparation for the last FET this Thursday and all I can think about is food !!

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