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    Default What a 4yr old needs to know/learn

    Hi everyone,
    DD will be 4 in aug and i was wondering what things she needs to learn in able to be school ready by 5 yrs of age??
    she knows the alphabet,counts to 30, writing wise she can only write afew alphabets (not her name but does recognise it)...so i know she has a long way to go ..thats why I'm looking for advise as to what else to do with her..

    also is it worth putting her in preschool?? she goes to daycare 5 days a week and quiet happy there ..i'v gotten different answers from friends..some say its important, others say no leave her in daycare and teach things daycare doesnot cover yourself..

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    I would say just read to her or with her, ask her lots of questions about what's happening in the stories and talk to her lots about what you're both doing all day. Making sure she can read and write her name is desirable but not essential.

    Kids that struggle at school early tend to be those without a lot of oral language. For some of course this is because there are global delays, but some kids turn up at school not used to people actually talking to them!

    You say she can count to 30 - is this meaningful to her? Could she count a group of objects? If so, you could ask her to count on from a number ie starting at 6, or count backwards. That's if she is ready.

    If not, just let her enjoy being a kid :-)

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    Hey my DD is also 4. She goes to daycare 2 days a week, I considered changing her to a preschool but they do lots of educational work and school readiness program's so I'm confident that daycare is just as good.
    The daycare sent him a program of what things they will be working on each month with the kids starting school next year. It started off with the basics - counting, recognising letters and writing them, writing their name, drawing shapes. Later in the year it changes to things like days of the week, seasons of the year, countries & flags (obviously very basic at that age) and reading time. So you could start talking about those sorts of things with your daughter if you want to prepare her a bit, but seems like she knows quite a bit already! Will she be starting school next year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    I would say just read to her or with her, ask her lots of questions about what's happening in the stories and talk to her lots about what you're both doing all day. Making sure she can read and write her name is desirable but not essential.

    Kids that struggle at school early tend to be those without a lot of oral language. For some of course this is because there are global delays, but some kids turn up at school not used to people actually talking to them!

    You say she can count to 30 - is this meaningful to her? Could she count a group of objects? If so, you could ask her to count on from a number ie starting at 6, or count backwards. That's if she is ready.

    If not, just let her enjoy being a kid :-)
    Thanks for your reply!
    counting wise she she can count objects..with asking her to count from say 6 onwards she can do that till 20 (so i guess its a rhuhm thing with her)
    her speech is okay...not very clear pronounciation wise as she has a slight lisp ..i talked about this with a speech path who is s frinds and she said just do more reading with her .
    would you recommend any particular books?? a friends gave me the reading eggs books so I'll start those with her soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just*Ace View Post
    Hey my DD is also 4. She goes to daycare 2 days a week, I considered changing her to a preschool but they do lots of educational work and school readiness program's so I'm confident that daycare is just as good.
    The daycare sent him a program of what things they will be working on each month with the kids starting school next year. It started off with the basics - counting, recognising letters and writing them, writing their name, drawing shapes. Later in the year it changes to things like days of the week, seasons of the year, countries & flags (obviously very basic at that age) and reading time. So you could start talking about those sorts of things with your daughter if you want to prepare her a bit, but seems like she knows quite a bit already! Will she be starting school next year?
    Thanks alot for replying!
    i was thinking of asking her daycare if they have any specific prgramme for the 4yr olds or not but thanks for the list ..i'll look into those topics!
    she turns5 in aug 2016 so will start school 2017

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    There are some practicalities that are helpful for them when they start school such as:
    - open and close their lunch box.
    - tie shoe laces (I went for the velcro option!)
    - fully independent at toileting
    - able to change into and out of school clothes and swimmers if they do swimming
    - can put shoes and socks off and on independently.

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    Can interact well with other kids
    can wipe bum
    open and close lunch box
    can concentrate and sit still/listen carefully for 10 minutes

    These things are more important than anything academic. If they know too much, they will be bored at school.

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    My daughter started school when she was 4. (Must be a Tassie thing)

    Honestly the only things that the teaches expected them to be able to do was go to the toilet independently. They taught them how to open their lunch boxes, how to back their bags away, they helped them with shoes and socks, taught them colours, shapes, numbers, to count and write.

    My daughter went into school already having known all of the above for well over a year so I was surprises at how little the kids "needed" to know going into school.

    I'd aim for all of which PP have said and not get too caught up in the academic side. If she knows it awesome! But don't force it.

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    My DS is 4 in Sept and will start school at the same time your DS does. He currently goes to preschool 2 days a week and daycare 1 day. Like Busy_bee and BigRedV posted these are the things we are concentrating on plus his speech as he has a severe delay. I'm not worried about numbers, letters etc (although he is counting) because that's what FYOS is for.

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    Pretty much what Waterlily said. There is no prerequisite for any academic level, only that their age corresponds with entry age. And although they don't have the jurisdiction to demand toilet training, a lot of teachers do. This can be a very difficult issue for parents as there are a lot of kids out there who are 3, 4 and 5 who, for various reasons, still have to wear a nappy. Our daycare demanded toilet training by age 2.5 for entry to "pre kindy" and we took action with the Department to nix this and did so with success.

    With my son, I found parents to be as equally damning regarding not being toilet trained by a certain age (there seems to be a consensus that there is 2 is the gold age for toilet training) so, if anything, for the social sake of your child, ensuring she is toilet trained would be my first priority. As long as there is no significant speech delay (which can have an impact as to where your child is allowed to go), everything else is gravy.

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