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    Default Yet another study to guilt FF mummies....

    So this study was posted in the celebrate breastfeeding section

    http://m.today.com/health/more-evide...630?cid=sm_fbn

    I made a comment not realising the section it was in so I withdrew my comment and have started this thread in here so that we don't turn their thread into a debate plus I would like to discuss the study so here is the most appropriate place without anyone debating our point of view.

    My issue with this study is that it's yet another study that looks at lifestyle, socio economic, genetic and breastfeeding all together which is great that it's not just based on breastfeeding or not breastfeeding (as I initially thought as I got so peeved at the article I didn't read it properly) however there are so many other factors they've researched that can equally have had an effect on IQ. Which for the record was only shown to be on average only 3.75 points higher.

    The only time I would give any credence to any study that linked intelligence to breastfeeding is if they can put some science behind how breast milk or formula actually makes changes to the brain and hence breastfeeding has an ABSOLUTE DIRECT link to a more intelligent brain - something this study hasn't been able to do.

    So how do other pro-bottle feeders feel about this study?

    FTR I'm a pro-what works for the parent feeding method. So I'm a pro-bottle feeding breastfeeder, soon to be bottle feeder

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    Studies like this can be so upsetting, to people that tried, to people that didn't try and regret it to people who didnt breast feed as long as they would have liked.
    I have my own regrets, as I have my reasons it didn't work out for DD & I. I know breast is best but sometimes it isn't. Emotional health, physical issues and so many other things come into play. I think it is important to remember how many things go into your babies development. Its isnt just what they are fed.

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    I read these studies.
    Then have a quiet giggle to myself about them.

    100% of people alive today were fed. Feeding is the best for babies. Feeding your baby will mean that in 30 years you will have a productive member of society who has learnt something, earns a wage, pays bills.

    Mm. Go food.

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    i call bollocks,
    I dont believe half the **** they pout as related to breast feeding,
    my kids are both breast fed past one and certainly not advanced, nor are they healthier than other kids who were formula fed etc.

    my sister has all formula fed children, one is incredibly smart, one advanced and one who struggled with school.
    my other sister has kids who are formula fed who are WAY above mine smarts wise,

    a co-relation does not equal a causation

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    Haha I already posted this is the other thread but since this just popped up I'll post it here too. Here is the actual study which gives a lot more information than a news article about it
    http://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journa...15)70002-1.pdf
    You're right that we can't conclusively say that BFing is solely responsible for an increases in IQ, and the authors do note that a direct causal link is yet to be found (but there is a little evidence to suggest one may exist).

    "Because we neither measured home environmentcharacteristics during childhood nor maternal-infantbonding, we were unable to explore whether theassociations identified might be attributable to biologicalcomponents of breastmilk itself, mother-infant bonding,or intellectual stimulation of breastfed children.20However, scientific literature shows that even aftercontrolling for home environment or stimulation,breastfed subjects have improved performance incognitive tests,2 thus suggesting that breastmilk itselfhas a programming effect on intelligence. The findingsof Lucas and colleagues’ study,4 in which eitherbreastmilk or formula was provided to preterm infants,suggest a direct effect of components present in milk."

    They go on to suggest that the presence of certain lipids present in breastmilk
    may be especially beneficial to the development of the central nervous system, including the brain.

    It's also extremely difficult to study causality and remove confounding variables in any study on infant/human development as we can't ethically randomly assign babies to different groups.

    I must say though that I find the title of this thread a little insulting (as a scientist, nothing to do with feeding!). I'm imagining a table of researchers sitting around discussing "How can we make FF mummies feel guilty today? I know, lets conduct a 30 year study on the long term effect of feeding and hope that it comes out in favour of BFing! Mwahahaha!" Which I suspect is probably not how it happens

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaraMum View Post
    I think it is important to remember how many things go into your babies development. Its isnt just what they are fed.
    This! And this applies for pretty much anything, feeding, sleeping, whether they go to CC, whether the parents are still together, etc… It's pretty unlikely that any single factor will determine how a child turns out.

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    @deku, that's obviously not what they did. I mean the results if widely publicised and accepted will be another way ff mums will end up feeling guilty - as if the breast is best campaign hasn't already done that.

    I do question their desire to do the study. To prove a very debatable topic once and for all or to beef up / back up the breast is best propaganda *ahem* sorry campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Squared View Post
    @deku, that's obviously not what they did. I mean the results if widely publicised and accepted will be another way ff mums will end up feeling guilty - as if the breast is best campaign hasn't already done that.

    I do question their desire to do the study. To prove a very debatable topic once and for all or to beef up / back up the breast is best propaganda *ahem* sorry campaign.
    i tihnk they did the study to see what benefits there were? 30 years ago there was no breast is best campaign

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    I feel the same as you @A-Squared...

    This study has been shared on my local ABA group and they were all congratulating each other.
    My eyes were rolling out of my head lol

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    A whole 3 points. Wow. There are so many factors non bfing related that could be attributed to that paltry difference. I also find a vast majority of the research tenuous at best and for every study that sings the praises of bfing you can find one that says it's not that much better at all.

    Stuff like this used to bother me. Actually it crushed me. Along with the smug bfers citing it to make themselves feel like better mums. Now I couldn't care less. My kids are very smart, healthy and I love formula. If this bub ends up on it too I won't bat an eyelid. I'm going to try to bf, but if it doesn't work, oh well. I refuse to allow a study with mediocre 'proof' let me feel like sh*t.

    A Squared there is nothing to feel guilty or shamed about. Formula is fabulous.
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