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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Don't cut wheat or dairy without consulting with your GP.
    Nutritionst/dietician /naturopath would know far more than a GP as they specialise in diet and nutrition, they can also create a eating plan based on what your family needs but you don't need to see any professional to start eating better - just cutting out processed foods and packet foods and increasing as many fresh/organic/grass fed foods as you can afford is a great start

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    I suppose what I am getting at is that parents should take advice from professionals not strangers on line. It's dangerous to apply broad guidance such as cut wheat without checking with a professional that it is right for your child's individual circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I suppose what I am getting at is that parents should take advice from professionals not strangers on line. It's dangerous to apply broad guidance such as cut wheat without checking with a professional that it is right for your child's individual circumstances.
    Of course but as you know ( you've helped many with sleeping advice) that hearing what other parents do first hand and how it's worked is far better than some advice from a GP that does not specialise in nutrition or know your family - no one has said to cut out wheat and dairy but to look into why it's causing so many problems , and how reducing it will improve your health - I'm hoping that any serious medical concerns on the hub would be going to a Dr but first asking questions to other parents is a great start and that's what I thought bub hub was for!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elijahs Mum View Post
    Of course but as you know ( you've helped many with sleeping advice) that hearing what other parents do first hand and how it's worked is far better than some advice from a GP that does not specialise in nutrition or know your family - no one has said to cut out wheat and dairy but to look into why it's causing so many problems , and how reducing it will improve your health - I'm hoping that any serious medical concerns on the hub would be going to a Dr but first asking questions to other parents is a great start and that's what I thought bub hub was for!
    You are my food guru EM. Your advice is far more sensible than that idiot MCHN that told me to start my 4mth old on rice cereal or the gp that told me to put my fully EBF 9kg 6mth old on a reduced milk diet as she was obese.

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    There is fierce debate over wheat. There has also been numerous peer reviewed studies that show that the nutritional components of wheat have not been changed, they show that the wheat has been modified to resist diseases and yield bigger crops but it hasn't actually changed the grain itself. There have also been studies done on groups that have the closest diets to paleothic, like Inuits in Canada, and these groups have worse health and higher mortality rates.

    Other peer reviewed studies show that whole wheat lowers cardiovascular problems, diabetes and cholesterol.

    That is not say wheat/gluten doesn't affect anyone, some people have coeliac diseases and intolerances and of course, if it makes people feel sick, they should get tested, and if that comes back negative then they can take wheat or gluten out of their diet and see if it makes a difference.

    There is some evidence to suggest that some people with bipolar disorder respond well to gluten free diets in terms of their mental health, which is interesting.

    Personally, whether someone eats it or not is neither here nor there, but I agree with some of the PPs if you are going to make changes to your diet, it's best to get your info from credible sources, not blogs on the internet.

    These are just my musings as a 100% gluten chilli and capsicum free person but if I didn't have to avoid food, I wouldn't, it is a total pain in the ****, especially when you travel

    I try an avoid processed food and make my own snacks, have started growing my own (chemical free veggies and fruit) and am just about to purchase my first chickens for eggs.

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    The naturopath who spoke with us yesterday said the key is to reduce, not cut it out altogether as that can lead to allergies. One serve of wheat a day is fine, it's when we overload the body with it that it can cause issues. I had weetbix for breakfast so will have rice at lunch. Potato with dinner and vegies and dip or fruit for snacks

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    I stick to the everything in moderation motto.

    We have 2 serves of wheat a day. At least 4 serves of veg, 3 serves of dairy, 2 serves of fruit and 1 serve of meat/ fish. We severly limit sugar with only 2 serves of refined sugar max a day.

    So i will show yesterday's diet. It was a lazy day but normal for what we eat.
    Breakfast, 100% corn corn flakes with milk, recess was veg sticks and a choc milk, lunch was a salami and salad wrap, afternoon tea was rice cakes with cream cheese and salad, dinner was baked potatoes with baked beans, cheese and sour cream. Desert was a frozen fruit slushi.

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    This is not a thread I'm going to jump into too heavily, as I'll come off looking pretty rude :P I'll simply say this:

    Improving diet is a fantastic move; what we eat has a lot to do with our health. We're pretty resilient though, and can cope with a lot of different diets without MAJOR effects. If for whatever reason, your kids don't eat as you would find ideal, I don't think you ought to feel guilty. You're clearly doing your best.

    My personal thoughts on food? Go for fresh unprocessed foods as much as possible; avoid eating lots of highly refined carbs (sugar, white bread, some white rices etc.). Absolutely take advice from dieticians, but ignore naturopaths. Naturopathy is full of pseudoscience and SO much evidence-free quackery. There are a few evidence-based approaches in amongst it, but those are approaches that an actual dietician would suggest too.

    As for cheats/tips/making it easier? The internet! There are fantastic ideas and recipes out there for simple whole-food snacks to keep on hand, or in the freezer. I find those kind of ideas immensely helpful

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renn View Post
    This is not a thread I'm going to jump into too heavily, as I'll come off looking pretty rude :P I'll simply say this:

    Improving diet is a fantastic move; what we eat has a lot to do with our health. We're pretty resilient though, and can cope with a lot of different diets without MAJOR effects. If for whatever reason, your kids don't eat as you would find ideal, I don't think you ought to feel guilty. You're clearly doing your best.

    My personal thoughts on food? Go for fresh unprocessed foods as much as possible; avoid eating lots of highly refined carbs (sugar, white bread, some white rices etc.). Absolutely take advice from dieticians, but ignore naturopaths. Naturopathy is full of pseudoscience and SO much evidence-free quackery. There are a few evidence-based approaches in amongst it, but those are approaches that an actual dietician would suggest too.

    As for cheats/tips/making it easier? The internet! There are fantastic ideas and recipes out there for simple whole-food snacks to keep on hand, or in the freezer. I find those kind of ideas immensely helpful

    Good luck.
    Absolutely this. There is an awful lot of naturopath quackery and scare mongering on the Internet, most of these people are just trying to scare people into buying something such as "health" foods, books, vitamins etc....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpicyTurtle View Post
    - water filter that filters almost 100% of fluoride, chlorine and other heavy metals
    - limit dairy and gluten, buy organic cheese and milk when we do eat it.
    - grass fed, organic meat, but try and eat meat only a few times a week
    - fruit/veggies for breakfast and morning tea, salad for lunch, meat and veg or vegetarian meal for dinner
    - cleaning products home made or natural products (white vinegar for most things)
    - beauty products organic natural products
    - try and really limit using chemicals at all costs.
    I've started doing most of this, except the fruit for breakfast. My kids would be hyperactive at school, while also hungry. Generally they have an egg-based dish, which fills them up and gives them enough energy to concentrate without needing to bounce around. (It must be the sugar in fruit... they're like maniacs if they have more than one whole piece).

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