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    I 100% agree that this culture is prevalent...esp in surgical field... i saw alot of this happen as well as hear about it from other junior doctors.. other fields i have noticed it as well but not to same extent.
    finding a job ,as a female, in any branch of surgeory it very cut throat....i have seen so many promising female surgeons turn to GP as they were either sexually harassed or went on mat leve and their position taken over by males/or situation made very hard for them to come back to...also race discrimination is very common in alot of fields...
    a very close friend was a brillant cardiology registrar, there was a male one as well who wasnt as good..bbut the amount of slack she got from all the consultant cardiologits wre terrible...the smallst mistake and they would shout at her...thankfully she stuck to her guns and now is a consultant her self..
    another thing that i noticed was they ones of us that were brown and not that attractive never got sexual advances..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedCreamingSoda View Post
    I don't think we should be outraged that this woman made these comments but that she is correct!
    We really need to remember to aim our anger at those who abuse their positions of power and subject young womens to this disgusting behavior and not at those who are brave enough to speak publicly about it. X
    I agree although theres another article online about it where she stands by what she said and says that it is unfortunate that it is true. I think she has done well bringing light to a subject that is under discussed, i think her intentions were in the right place and she ment it in a way to help but she still stands by what she said and that it is better to just do it than speak against it. She is speaking out about it but the way she has done it comes across all the wrong way. I think most people on the hubs comments that it is discusting would be aimed at the situation and not just this woman.
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    I work in a fairly archaic and patriarchal industry and I have unfortunately seen women mentors in some parts of my profession giving similar "advice" to the juniors coming through the ranks. While misguided, they really are trying to inject a dose of reality and get the young women to toughen up and lower their expectations of how gender-inclusive and non-discriminatory our organisation is. Some examples include not speaking up when witnessing sexual harassment or discrimination, to not calling make colleagues out on bad behaviour. It's awful but a sad reality of the industry, and sadder that senior women feel as though it can't be changed.

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    It's horrible that this situation even exists. It's horrible they she said it, but the blame should be laid squarely at the feet of the people who are demanding sex from the women to get ahead, not at the person who said that men demand sex from the women shouldn't it?

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    Further info and allegations

    Sexual harassment is a major issue in Australian hospitals and victims are not speaking up because of inadequate complaint processes and fear it will ruin their careers, doctors say.



    More than a dozen female doctors have contacted Fairfax Media to back Sydney surgeon Gabrielle McMullin's assertion that sexual harassment was occurring within a culture of silence and that those who wanted to protect their careers should not speak out.


    Doctors say they have experienced everything from inappropriate jokes to sexual advances from senior staff who could make or break their careers, and some say they would not trust the complaint mechanisms in place at hospitals and colleges where there is an established culture of "untouchables".


    One female surgeon, who did not want to be named, said the problem was particularly bad in surgery because it remained a male-dominated profession.

    For example, just four of the 46 neurosurgeons in Victoria are women, according to the Royal Australasian College of Surgeons' database.


    "Advice to keep quiet about sexual harassment, assault and rape arises because there is a long history of such reports being dealt with poorly," she said.
    Victims had been disbelieved, blamed and publicly shamed while the accused surgeons maintained their public appointments and supervisory positions, she said. This occurs while the surgical futures of their victims are "obliterated."


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    This is appalling! I feel so sorry for the victims.

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    I really hope there is an inquiry into this reading the posts in international women's day, you'd thing there was nothing wrong with our culture and women are just a bunch of wingers with nothing better to do, clearly we have a long way to go

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    I can understand what she was trying to say, but she really could have worded it better...

    To me, "It's a sad state of affairs, but the truth is, career-wise, you are better off complying than complaining. Now this does not mean I condone any such action....", would have been an acceptable way to say it. Doesn't make the fact that it is true acceptable...

    ...actually, she might have meant it exactly as she said it. She wouldn't be the only one.

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    the more I read, the more depressing this story is.

    The surgeon who was sexually discriminated against has spoken out - and what she has to say is even worse than I thought.

    How can we move ahead as a society when highly educated and trained woemn are treated in this manner

    http://www.watoday.com.au/victoria/s...11-141hfi.html

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    Wow, I'm shocked. I can not believe this still is happening and being swept under the rug! How disgusting and heart breaking for the victims.

    I knew a few people who work in hospitals so am going to quiz them when we next catch up.


 

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