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    I think the mum is a legend. As for those saying the girl shouldn't have punched the boy, there were other ways of defending herself yada yada yada. Pftttt! She's a teenager and the human brain isn't fully matured until people are 27 or something. You can't expect a 15 year old CHILD who is being sexually assaulted to stop and think "hmmm. What is he most politically correct way in which I can handle the situation?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by vampstorso View Post
    Im sorry but expecting a scared teenage girl who is being sexually harassed to "walk away" seems rediculous to me.
    She wasn't supported by her teacher, why should she feel any other adult would help her after that?
    He touched her. She told him not too. He did. She told the teacher, who ignored her and he continued to do it.
    At what point is it okay to defend yourself then? When someone else decides you've adaquetly suffered enough first?
    It wasn't her first course of action, no one helped her, so she helped herselfm
    I wouldn't expect her to do any different...as you say, she was likely a scared teenage girl. I think all the adults jumping in to defend violence is appalling though.

    I'm in no way standing up for the boy. Of course what he did was appalling, and needs to be taken extremely seriously.

    It makes me sick though that so many people are willing to justify violence. Violence kills people. It seriously disfigures; it damages peoples brains for life. It is NOT an appropriate response because somebody "deserves" it. It's only an appropriate response if there's no other option.

    Of course that boy deserves to face serious consequences for what he did. Teaching kids though that it's fine to hit someone in that situation means he "deserves" it if he loses an eye; if he hits his head and dies.

    Violence can have extremely serious consequences, and treating it as an appropriate response completely ignores that possibility for everyone involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elijahs Mum View Post
    I agree - the teachers sound shocking and something should be done and I think the mother was justifiably upset but if it were my daughter I would be just as upset about the punching

    I wonder if the boy punched the girl in the face because she maybe pulled the back of his pants everyone would still have the same opinion ?
    If the chick was groping his doodle then she deserved to be punched in the face too. Pulling the pants I don't know. It's all about the level of intimidation and humiliation someone is likely to be feeling. And whether it be sexist or not (probably is) I think boy continually flicking a girls bra strap is more likely to be about power, control and getting the offenders rocks off.

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    When I was in highschool the police came to give students a talk about sexual assault etc. boys and girls were spoken to separately. Myself and a few other girls dobbed on one boy for continually flicking girls bras and he got in big trouble - never did it again. I remember earlier telling him if he did it again I would punch him in the face. So he only did it to me once.

    Not sure what the point of my story is

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    I think that the fact that a) it took a punch to bring attention from teachers and b)that the mother had to go into bat so strogly for her daughter is a sad indication of the way we treat sexual assault in our society.

    Women just can't bloody win! A women gets raped and is questioned as to "why she didn't use force to fight back?" and now a young woman uses force to stop an assault and she's the one in the wrong?

    We have such a long way to go on this issue but I know that as a parent, I would have no problem with my daughter or my son doing what the girl in this situation did.

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    I see it like this: She used her skills and language by asking him to stop. He didn't. She asked for help by someone who has a duty of care to proect her (the teacher). She was then subjected again to unwanted behaviour. She decided to change her language to one the boy understood. Hey presto! It worked. End of story.

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    Yeh but my worry would be one day she might punch someone else and they fight back and someone gets a serious injury - that's the only reason I don't like encouraging violence , I'm not saying to do nothing but they are teenagers and won't think about their actions clearly ( like those one punch idiots)

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    I have really mixed feelings over this. On one hand, she asked him to stop multiple times and he did not, to the point he undid her bra. She asked for help from the teacher and told to ignore it (wtf? ). It didn't seem to be a sustained attack which went on for mins, I'm reading two hits in quick succession. May well have been a knee jerk reaction. Part of me struggles to feel sorry for the boy as he was told to stop and was sexually assaulting her.

    But then violence shouldn't be the answer. I guess she could have got up and left the classroom... which she would have got in trouble for... but then she got in trouble for assault anyway.

    So I really don't know where I stand tbh. If it was my daughter, I would have ruthlessly defended her like this mum did, but in private probably talked to her about more appropriate measures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elijahs Mum View Post
    Yeh but my worry would be one day she might punch someone else and they fight back and someone gets a serious injury - that's the only reason I don't like encouraging violence , I'm not saying to do nothing but they are teenagers and won't think about their actions clearly ( like those one punch idiots)
    I would *assume* that tuned in mother would be having a conversation with her dd later about violence. The dd hit the boy twice. She didn't follow up with a few kicks to the groin or the head. I can only take from the story that the girl used no more than the level of force that was needed.

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    From my days in a classroom, walking out was NOT an option. I can't even remember one day where one student walked out...

    I would have done the same as that 15yo, probably not punching him in the face but I would have defended myself physically.
    And I would have been mortified if my mum did not support me.

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