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    I think the mother is brilliant and 100% correct. She was not endorsing violence, just recognising that her daughter was left with very little option. Could she have run away from the boy? Maybe, but as she'd already told him to stop repeatedly and reported it to her teacher, she was forced to defend herself in that manner. Not ideal, but what else could she do?
    I blame the teacher for telling her to "ignore" it (wtf?!) for it reaching the point it did.
    Kudos to that strong mumma!
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    Whether or not the daughters actions were appropriate, the mum won at parenting that day in my opinion. She was everything a mumma bear should be in that situation.

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    If she ignored it or walked away,
    What do you think would happen at lunch time?
    Oh..thats right...the bully will just follow the victim around the schoolyard and continue to do it while the teachers offer no aid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vampstorso View Post
    If she ignored it or walked away,
    What do you think would happen at lunch time?
    Oh..thats right...the bully will just follow the victim around the schoolyard and continue to do it while the teachers offer no aid.
    Maybe.....or maybe not

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    Quote Originally Posted by vampstorso View Post
    If she ignored it or walked away,
    What do you think would happen at lunch time?
    Oh..thats right...the bully will just follow the victim around the schoolyard and continue to do it while the teachers offer no aid.
    Then she could take it further up the hierachy, or go to the police re continued sexual harassment. As it is, they're both in the wrong... one for sexual harassment, and one for assault. Punching someone in the face twice doesn't really qualify as "reasonable force" when you have another choice.

    It astounds me that people are so quick to justify violence. No wonder we have such an issue with violence in our culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vampstorso View Post
    If she ignored it or walked away,
    What do you think would happen at lunch time?
    Oh..thats right...the bully will just follow the victim around the schoolyard and continue to do it while the teachers offer no aid.
    I agree with Renn in the situAtion explained.

    In your scenario, say he did follow her and physically didn't let her go, and she again couldn't walk away, then punching him is self defence.

    I question why the girl punched him twice. Surely if she felt violence was the only answer, punching him once would be almost self defence, twice, I'm sorry is assault.

    Am I saying the boy shouldn't be punished, no. Am I saying the teacher should have taken it seriously and disciplined the boy himself before it got to that point. Yes. But the daughter shouldn't have punched the boy in this situation.

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    Seriously ive been in that girls position and yes i felt my only option was violence. I do not blame her for doing what she did. I feel it was justified.

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    Good on the girl for standing up for herself, her options were limited considering she approached the teacher who told her to ignore it rather than have a word with the boy. And good on the mother for standing up for her daughter.

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    He had no right to tough her bra. He was repeatedly sexually assaulting her. I would be fine with my daughter defending herself from a sexual predator however she needed. No wonder violence is such an issue? No wonder rape is such an issue in our society! She told him to stop. She told the relevant authority about it. The sexual assault continued. No one was defending her, she had to defend herself.
    I am disgusted by the teachers response. I am a teacher, and i would teach my 5 year olds to respect each others bodies. No pushing over in the playground. Their body belongs to them, and you have no right to push them. I hope that my girls will grow up expecting that they have the right to their own bodies. What would it have taken for this boy to be dealt with? Twanging her bra wasnt enough, what if he grabbed her breast? Would that be allowed? Grabbing her bum or touching her undies? I think the girl and the mother was completely justified. We need to stop teaching out boys that they have the right to do as they please with the female body. Its not ok.

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    Next they will be telling her it is her fault because she led him on to do it. Victim blaming

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