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    I'd get him to write the selection criteria responses and then review. He's going to need to know them inside and out.

    Get him to start thinking of examples. What are they going to be assessing him against? If there is a general capability statement for his level (for example the APS has the Integrated Leadership System) get him to start looking for examples that best meet those capabilities. Look at what is expected at level above and start seeing how he meets them.

    If he had selection criteria when he applied for his job, revisit them, see if he could improve upon them.

    Practice questions are important and making sure he is going through and clearly describing his examples - situation-task, his action and the results.

    Good luck - I had to reapply for my job and it's super stressful on everyone. The people we were interviewed by had no background in our area which I found useful because it meant that I had to explain why what I did was important (if that makes sense).

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    I'm sorry but why are HR dodgy and idiots? Because they are facilitating this process or because they won't guarantee a job or both? I'm just abit sensitive to these statements because I am in HR in a Government Department and just get sick of getting the blame for these things all the time when I'm just doing my job for which I work bloody hard. I just had to reapply for the role I was acting in for 2 years, there were no guarantees for me either.

    I get that this is stressful but it's pretty standard in Government Departments. Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beljane View Post
    We know that nothing is a sure thing, especially with the idiots that run their HR. He has bern told that the panel will consist of HR, the Director and and outside Recruitment specialist! No one from operations who actually know what is needed for the Jobs.

    After chatting last night we have decided that he will also apply for other jobs just so he has optiins shouldcthe worst happen.
    The idiots that run HR! Really that is out of line. They have a job to do like everyone else!

    If you don't have current experience with resumes and selection criteria I would get your dh's resume, cover letter and selection criteria professionally done, it is well worth it.

    Unfortunately regardless of the experience your dh has or how long he may have been doing the position it does not guarantee that he will get the position. I have seen this happen recently with the girl who has done my position for 1 day a week on contract for 3 years when I decided I didn't want to have that day back. The 1 day a week was advertised as permanent and regardless of her experience and the fact she had been doing it for so long and she was highly regarded she was unsuccessful because another applicant interviewed better. As it turned out the successful applicant didn't like the role and resigned so my collegue got it anyway which is great for her.

    Unfortunate it's a process but that's how is is in the public sector.

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    There is a LOT if back history of dodgy dealings so I am NOT being harsh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beljane View Post
    There is a LOT if back history of dodgy dealings so I am NOT being harsh.
    Being a Government Department where every decision and recommendation is governed by Policy and is scrutinised to the ninth degree, I find that VERY hard to believe. But obviously that's what you believe, I just find it a shame that people are so mistrusting of HR just because they don't get their own way. That's what gives us a bad name.

    Anyhoo, I'm actually supposed to be working, I hardly ever post here.. must be having a tough day screwing over employees.

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    We actually have every right to be worried about how HR are dealing with this. First of all, they did not tell anyone that they had to re-apply for their job. The jobs have been advertised and it was only by accident when my Husband asked about something kind of related that they said "well you have to re-apply for your job"!!!! Never mind the 200 other people who have to do the same. (For reference sake there are actually more jobs available then currently occupied as they are severely understaffed so there is no need to be making them re-apply) They have no idea about POLICY and nothing as been scrutinized for a very long time (my Father has also worked for this Department for over 30 years in a similar role as my Husband)

    The current HR team are fresh off the back of their latest debacle. Some very dodgy dealings on how and who they employed in the last intake of officers a few months ago. It was very inbred indeed but they still have their jobs so it's all okay as far as they are concerned. They have NO idea on current Directives and agreements. We have had to supply proof of what we are talking about because they have never heard of it! (in particular one Directive regarding Severance Pay for Temporary Contractors who have been continually renewed/employed) So yes, they are idiots. I have seen the email trails, I am not saying (and never have said) all HR are idiots.....but the ones in this particular Department are. I too have worked in Government and the HR in the Departments I have worked in have been fantastic.
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    As far as I am concerned, it is not HRs job to tell staff they need to reapply for their jobs - their managers get paid to manage their staff.... just my 2c

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    They don't really have "Managers" HR do all of this in this particular Government Department. They have a Director but my DH has no one to "report to" as such, No "chain of command". There is there Operations sections who tell them where they are working and what hours etc (there is a lot of variance in their work locations usually, DH is currently acting in Higher Duties so is/was supposed to be staying where he is for the next 36 weeks to cover for a Long Service Leave)

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    The waste of taxpayers money on these ridiculous exercises really boggles my mind. If you have someone doing a job perfectly well, why waste the huge amount of resources involved in advertising, reviewing applications, interviewing, and then, purely because of interview performance, employing someone new who needs to be trained while losing all the investment in the previous employee who was perfectly fine. It's insane.

    In my (limited) experience I have found HR in the department I work at strictly mis-interpret the policies and insist on this waste of resources when it is really not necessary or actually required by the policies. The cynical side of me suspects it is to ensure that enough work is generated to justify their own jobs, but *disclaimer* that is pure speculation

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    Op isn't attacking all HRs or all Govt departments.
    Just as some of you say it's out of line her saying that, or they're just trying to do their job, it's actually possible, that in this one location/department/area, these particular HRs are cr@p or dodgy!

    Good advice already given regarding application, resume, KSC.

    Also good idea applying for other jobs.

    And finally, if your DH misses out and truly believes something dodgy happened, being a Govt department there would be policies regarding recruitment and appealing decisions.

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