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    My my story starts by my DH and I not conceiving in the 11 years we have been together and the 1 year we have actually been actively ttc. It has officially been almost 5 months of testing between my DH and I. All my tests came back great but unfortunately my husband had two semen analysis that came back with zero sperm. He was sent to a urologist who specializes in infertility...they completed a ultrasound which revealed a slight varicocele on his left testes, and smaller than normal sized testes. He had a TESE procedure completed along with a biopsy. Still no sperm was found and he was diagnosed with Sertoli Only Cell Syndrome. My DH felt it was necessary to get a second opinion which we did (requested to see his actual biopsy slides and redid his bloodwork and ultrasound.) My DH is on clomid to try everything he possibly can as well as fertilaid for men. We met my doctor the other day who was discussing donor sperm with iui. My DH is so upset and is worried that he can't love someone else's child, he is afraid he will be treating the baby differently. He does not want to be a active part in finding a donor bc he would rather me "trick" him into thinking the baby is his. I understand how he feels but I don't want to do anything behind his back if he is not 100% for it. Has anyone gone thru what we are going thru regarding his diagnosis, donor sperm and emotions??? I have so many mixed feelings on using donor sperm, any advice on how to sort thru my emotions and how to comfort my DH? Any success stories with Sertoli cell only???

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    Hi faithfull sorry you are in this position 😔 I know exactly how you feel my husband has azoo as well. There is many of us here so believe me you are not alone 😄 we have a thread I have put the link below come over and have a chat all the girls have a world of knowledge


    http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/f...d.php?t=537025

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    We have felt just what you're feeling now. DH initially said flat out no to donor. He was adamant. With a lot of time, patience and tears he eventually realised it was our only chance. We now have 3 donor children and are expecting number 4. He is the most amazing hands on dad and we never even think about how they were conceived any more. I'm really happy to chat more via pm if you wish. We have sertoli as well. Sending you good thoughts!

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    My husband has sertoli cell only too. He is also flat against donor sperm too. He is okay to do DS with DE but not DS with my eggs. I think it has something to do with then we are both on level fields.

    One thing that confuses me though is that yoi said your husband is taking clomid. Usually that is if they have low T and usually with sertoli they have high FSH so it should not be taken.

    Where do you live? There are andrologists in Brisbane, Melbourne & Sydney who do mTESE. This is what we call the "last resort" surgery. Have you looked into doing that?

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    Hugs faithful, it is devastating to have such news.

    First you need to go through the grieving for your DH's biological child. It took as a few years before we were convinced that we had done all we could. Once you have dealt with that it is easier to move onto donor.

    To use donor you will need to have counselling (I think it is mandatory for donor at most clinics). I really recommend it. Also you can't 'trick' your DH, for a number of reasons. First he will need to sign the forms at the clinic, so he will kind of know what is going on. Second it is totally not fair on any child that you have. Studies have shown that donor children who are aware of their circumstances from an early age are much better off than those that find out years later.

    My DD is now 18 months old and there is no way that DH could love her anymore if she was biologically his. They are best mates and it is just amazing to see them together.

    All the best. As a previous poster said, there are a few threads around that you should have a look at.

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    Default azoospermia- Sertoli Cell Only

    Hi faithful, I am so sorry that you have to go through this. Hugs. I have "met" the above four ladies on the azoospermia thread. If you have read through some of the stories from thread #1, you will find that i said the exact same thing as your post word by word. My Dh was also strongly against DS. He told me that he couldn't trick himself to see the baby as his. We tried everything and failed. It is then we know that donor is the only choice to have a family. Dh wanted me to leave him but I won't have wanted to raise a child without him anyway. I want to raise a kid with him. For us, it makes no sense to do donor egg as it is harder to get and more importantly, dh thinks there is still half of me in there. It is not easy for me either as I actually want the baby to have more of his gene than me. But at the end of day, we realised that we can't control the genetic make up regardless of whose gene will dominate. If we would have chosen donor egg and sperm, it would be better of doing adoption. Everyone is different. Just like malak said, they are more comfortable about the DE and DS option. Some decide to be childless.

    We went through a lot of tears and heartache after the miracle pregnancy. We attended a mandatory donor counselling session here in WA. That's when dh was convinced, I believe. No matter what, we will be the parents. Our session with the syd clinic was a completely disaster so thanks goodness that it wasn't our first session! The whole journey took us 3 yrs. As you can see, this isn't a day or or two or even a year decision. It took a long time for him to come to term. I just finished my first cycle of donor Ivf. Luckily, it works. I am currently 6 weeks pregnant. Dh and i are cautiously optimistic. He is very happy that we can finally move on to enjoy the parenthood. He is beyond excited to see the baby on the scan soon ( Fx that everything goes smoothly and uneventful in the next 7.5 months!) 4 of us here have gone through to the step of using donor. No regret as you can tell from above. Malak is Still at the exploring stage, I hope she has a better luck than us in term of having dh bio child.
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    Thank you everyone for your kind words and support!

    I don't agree with my husband wanting me to "trick" him into thinking he got me pregnant and I definitely will not go the route of DS if he is not for it 100%. I totally agree with everyone that this is a grieving process and it will take time. He says he wants to still have a child with me, does not want to adopt and already said no to DS with DE. I am in NJ and currently trying to find a counselor or support group for us to go to and see.

    My DH is taking clomid since his testosterone was extremely low but his fsh was very high.

    It is relieving to see other people experiencing the same thing as us, I have been trying to find boards and discussions about our situation and have had minimal success. We have been married for a year and a half, DH is 31 years old and I am 27. I know we are still young, but I always imagined myself pregnant young with a large family

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    The diagnosis is so tough, no matter what your age
    I don't know about the USA, but here in Australia you couldn't "trick" your DH with clinic donor sperm, even if you wanted to. This is because both partners have to attend compulsory counseling before you can access donor sperm. So you would have to take matters into your own hands, so to speak.
    My DH had nothing to do with picking our donor either. We went to the clinic and he sat with me in the room while I went through the profiles. Although I felt slightly abandoned, I understood.
    Thinking of you and your DH and you can always come back here to chat

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    Yes, agree with octonaut. The diagnosis is hard no matter at what age. You have plenty of options in the US in term of Dr. Since you are in NJ, have you thought about seeing DrSchelgel in up state New York? He is the pioneer of mTESE procedure.

    I know it is very easy to obtain DS in the US without going through clinic or via clinic. I have explored such option a little bit (via clinic) few months ago since I am heading to the US for work and was having a hard time getting a donor who is suitable for us. Thus i don't think counselling is mandatory there. On one hand, I am sure that your clinic has such service? It is important to seek counselling. I suffered from depression last year and was seeing a clinical psychologist throughout the period. It helped. The donor counselling Also clears up so many misconceptions. Feel free to post. We are here to support each other. You need dh to be 100% sure on board for this. Take time to grief.

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    It is hard no matter what age you are . My dream always was that we would get married and then I would get pregnant within a few months. Never did I expect that may never have kids.

    With low T I am surprised they didn't do clomid before the TESE.

    As bbhope said ... look at mTESE it is a last resort surgery and people have found sperm.

    One thing I will say is this journey is different for everyone else. Your DH not wanting to do DS is what is right for him, just the same as if you didn't want to do adoption that is what is right for you.

    I am on a US forum too. I will PM you the link to it.

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