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    I agree @KitiK. I've changed Ob because I was not happy with my other doc. & honestly, babies certainly don't need everything that is on the market & recommended. They just need somewhere to sleep, somewhere to lay/sit & food - whether that's mummy or formular. Everything I have purchased has been on sale (except his mattress & handmade sheet) but given I'm only 27, I hope to have 1 or 2 more & these will all be recycled as we have more bubba's. I have 'justified' my expenses. @HavingitAll, do you have a baby hire place? If you don't want to pay full price for items, you can hire. We also have a toy library & you pay a small amount for a month or so of use + something like $15/yr membership. I hope everything works out for you guys! x

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    So true @BabyOB! You dont need to justify anything to anyone - ever! As a parent you will inevitably get a bucketload of judgements thrown at you (even from well meaning people who are close to you! - argh, get used to it, and have a few witty comebacks up your sleeve ) As long as you are doing your best, baby is healthy - thats enough x

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    @ladybug14 - my IVF date is 25/5 and my 7 week scan date is 26/5 so although the hospital says 26th im saying 25th. They have mentioned at my hospital that they don't like IVF mums to go over their due dates because of a small statistical elevated risk of stillbirth in overdue IVF babies due to growth restriction/placenta or cord failure etc. Is that what they have said to you too? So as a compromise we are doing a growth scan every 4 weeks starting last week at 28 weeks so that if she is growing and my fluids/placenta/cord are ok then I can go over. Maybe you can get extra scans too?

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    @KitiK I am so over doctors and there scare tactics... The only three doctors I currently have respect for are my GP, my FS, and my husbands FS (and even with the last they haven't fixed my DH just got him over the line for being able to get us pregnant)...

    I just feel the whole medical field has turned into a how do we protect our own *** sort of situation... We will scare people into doing what is the easiest for us (the doctors)... And that's in general for everyone, not just us momma's to be...

    At least with the three mentioned above... They are honest when they don't know the answer, they aren't trying to scare me into do something I'm not confident or comfortable with, they have well explained answers to questions I have, and they are open to trying things that make sense and might help the situation... And are open to feedback and suggestions from me or DH...

    The obs and the endrocronologist I have experienced so far are close minded, try it to scare me into asking for something I don't want, haven't been able to fix my DH's issues that he has, trying to change my medication in the middle of a pregnancy, trying to scare me Ito changing my medication after pregnancy, telling me **** and then not being able to answer questions I ask without looking like a complete idiot because they actually don't know the answer and are to scared to admit it...

    It's frustrating, it's annoying, and I wish I could just deal with some of the nice midwives I have encountered and leave it at that... And if they or I feel there is an issue to then go see my GP (who is a OBGYN but not delivering babies) or someone else... But no... Can't do that... That would be to easy...

    Anyway that's for reading my RANT... Feel better to get that all off my chest...

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    @Soques, i just wrote a big long reply but it didnt post?! Argh! Will come back later to respond

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    @KitiK thanks for the thought. Just needed to let off some steam.

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    Im sorry that the medical profession has let you down @Soques - my sister was in a similar boat - pg with twins and has hashimotos - she was constanly amazed at how little her care givers knew about the condition - even her endocrinologist was useless (and less 'read' up on medical journals and recent research than my sister about T3, T4, free T3 and the various narural v synthetic treatments etc.) Very dissapointing. I know there are slim picking for specialists in the Nth of Aust so feel for you in that regard too.

    I just think that we should be empowering each other to question our caregivers, be curious, resourceful and trust (when placed rationally) if there is no trust the best thing to do is find another provider - which you have done, kudos for being strong and knowing what you want navigating pg the first time around!

    I think it can be harmful though to suggest that being induced or having a c sec (or wahtever other intervention) that might be suggested by a OB is not a good idea (big baby not a good enough reason to go ahead with intervention) particulalry when we dont have all the facts about the actual situation - there may be more complex matters at play that haven't been divulged.

    I was constantly told that my 1st c sec wasn't necessary (by well meaning friends and family - and even a midwife - none of whom were at my birth or were privvy to all of the details and circumstances. I am lucky that I was there and trust both my own and my OBs judgement. I guess what I am trying to say is that as women we should be supporting each other to a) question, b) consider a second opinion, c) trust your professional care giver - and if you dont trust your caregiver, d) change provider.

    I hope everyone gets their birth of choice, i would hate to think any woman would feel bullied or scared into an intervention that wasnt explained well enough or that they werent comfortable with. x

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    @KitiK yep totally agree... But when you don't see the same caregiver every time it makes it hard to trust anyone. And when the private people are even worse we don't have much choice.

    I'm currently sitting here awaiting to see a doctor. My ultrasound came back with tummy at 95% percentile with everything else between 50 -65% but lady put in my due date as 5 April instead of 29 march... So not sure why she did that and how that affects everything...

    So now I am expecting doctors to say c section because of big baby... And not liking the thought...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soques View Post
    @KitiK yep totally agree... But when you don't see the same caregiver every time it makes it hard to trust anyone. And when the private people are even worse we don't have much choice.

    I'm currently sitting here awaiting to see a doctor. My ultrasound came back with tummy at 95% percentile with everything else between 50 -65% but lady put in my due date as 5 April instead of 29 march... So not sure why she did that and how that affects everything...

    So now I am expecting doctors to say c section because of big baby... And not liking the thought...
    Why would the tummy be so much bigger compared with the rest?! I don't quite understand the measurement process. Sorry you're getting the runaround @Soques

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    It must suck thinking its inevitable and is scary in those situations. And everyone is an arm chair expert, which is frustrating. I am fortunate to be private and have the same caregiver everytime (even with GP shared care).

    Big tummy could = lots of fluid rather than big baby? Which has different risks. I know that dating scans this far along aren't as accurate and depend on the sonographer too...?

    I really hope that you don't end up with a c section unless absoloutley necessary to get your baby here safely, because like with any birth they have thier challenges. I am 100% confident that you will make whatever decision is in your & your babys best interest and will spend as much time as is necessary asking the questions and challenging the reasons, if that is what is suggested.

    Plenty of ppl have big babies and say it was easier than giving birth to their smaller ones, but then again if the there is a risk of baby getting stuck and a poor outcome I can understand why ppl might want to err on the side of caution.


    I am 100% sure that you will ask every reasonable question. I also think that some care givers think there are higher risks with IVF babies and just want a healthy outcome for the parents given what they have already been through.. let us know how you go x
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